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Old 08-20-2010, 03:56 PM     Post subject: [NL2 FR] Qeustion about villains range #1 (permalink)  
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Stacks:
UTG ($1.19)
UTG+1 ($1.26)
UTG+2 ($1.53)
Hero ($2.11)
MP2 ($2.05)
MP3 ($1.77)
CO ($5)
BTN ($0.97)
SB ($2.81)
BB ($5.08)

Pre-Flop: ($0.03, 10 players) Hero is MP1 10 10
UTG calls $0.02, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.10, 2 folds, CO calls $0.10, 2 folds, BB calls $0.08, UTG calls $0.08

Flop: J 5 8 ($0.41, 4 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $0.30, CO calls $0.30, BB folds, UTG folds

Turn: 7 ($1.01, 2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks

River: Q ($1.01, 2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $0.64, Hero ???

What hands can CO have in his range? The only ones I can come up are T9 or JJ. Or am i geeting bluffed by some busted draws?
Villain was 18/15 over 33 hands.
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Old 08-20-2010, 04:16 PM #2 (permalink)  
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 Do you know why you are betting this flop? For value? As a bluff? It's fairly dry.
If you think he's calling with worse on the flop then the turn card is just strengthening his draws and would warrant another bet. Fold the river.
[00:29] <daven> dc, why not check turn behind
[00:30] <DC> daven
[00:30] <DC> on my hand?
[00:30] <daven> yep
[00:30] <DC> because I am drunk
[00:30] <daven> nice reason
[00:30] <daven> no further questions
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Do you know why you are betting this flop? For value? As a bluff? It's fairly dry.
If you think he's calling with worse on the flop then the turn card is just strengthening his draws and would warrant another bet. Fold the river.
I c-bet the flop since only the J should have hit their ranges after they call my preflop raise and BB+UTG have already checked, which shows weaknes to me. After the call on the flop I put him on JJ or Jx. It's just that his bet doesn't make any sense if he has a J since the river brings a Q and if he had trip jacks, he should have reraised the flop or bet the turn. And a call preflop with T9 doesn't make any sense to me.

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 Hows it going iLike? You know whats funny? I make this exact play every night, yet this morning, as i sip my coffee, im thinking wow that was played badly. No offence bud, i am worse because i know what i should do but dont do it.

He is in the CO so whether he is a TAG or a LAG his range is going to be relatively wider than EP. You could safely put him on broadway, 22+, suited connectors preflop. What information do you have on him? What does he think of you? What % of CBets does he call IP and how loose is he preflop. With none of that information you have played yourself into a tough situation by not betting the turn and river, inviting a bluff that you really cant call. With no info on him I would b/f the turn and river. As it stands i think he floated your continuation bet and then bluffs into the weakness you showed on the turn and river, but thats irrelevant. With no info you have to fold imo.
If his % C CBet IP is <35% it would increase the probability you are up against a J or worse (set, over pair). If its >50% then he doesnt respect the CBet and you should b/f turn and river.
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Hows it going iLike? You know whats funny? I make this exact play every night, yet this morning, as i sip my coffee, im thinking wow that was played badly. No offence bud, i am worse because i know what i should do but dont do it.

He is in the CO so whether he is a TAG or a LAG his range is going to be relatively wider than EP. You could safely put him on broadway, 22+, suited connectors preflop. What information do you have on him? What does he think of you? What % of CBets does he call IP and how loose is he preflop. With none of that information you have played yourself into a tough situation by not betting the turn and river, inviting a bluff that you really cant call. With no info on him I would b/f the turn and river. As it stands i think he floated your continuation bet and then bluffs into the weakness you showed on the turn and river, but thats irrelevant. With no info you have to fold imo.
If his % C CBet IP is <35% it would increase the probability you are up against a J or worse (set, over pair). If its >50% then he doesnt respect the CBet and you should b/f turn and river.
he says he only has 33 hands on him, hardly enough to rely on his cbet fold % that much.

That being said, at 2nl id def be betting the flop, 8x, 5x call, T9s, QT, Q9s, maybe even T7s. (obv im not saying thats the co's range but between him, the utg limp/caller, an d the bb (both of whom you failed to give any stats on) id sayits in their range)

Turn is a little thin, some of his hands got there, the 8x and 5x may fold to a second barrel, and the Q draws might fold their gutshot as well (but they may bet them), so unless you think youre getting floated a ton here or that he will bet all the hands i just mentioned if checked to, id check/fold. If you think he is floating you a lot then obviously check/call could be profitable. And lastly if you think hes calling with worse pairs, gutshots to a second barrell then bet/fold is probably best.
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