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08-22-2010, 10:59 AM
Post subject: [NL2 FR] AQ facing small turn bet on dry board
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Two Pair
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Stacks:
UTG ($1.20)
UTG+1 ($1)
UTG+2 ($3.61)
MP1 ($2.39)
MP2 ($2.27)
Hero ($1.90)
CO ($1.17)
BTN ($5.40)
SB ($1.13)
BB ($2)
Pre-Flop: ($0.03, 10 players) Hero is MP3 A Q
3 folds, MP1 calls $0.02, MP2 calls $0.02, Hero raises to $0.12, 1 fold, BTN calls $0.12, 2 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 calls $0.10
Flop: 7 10 6 ($0.41, 3 players)
MP2 checks, Hero bets $0.30, BTN calls $0.30, MP2 folds
Turn: J ($1.01, 2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $0.50, Hero ???
Villain was 18/7 over 117 hands.
His bet doesn't make any sense to me, because I can't think of any reasonable hand which improved on the turn. I think he would have reraised JJ either preflop or on the flop and I don't see him calling with AJ. But still, I felt pretty lost in this spot. Is this a fold?
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Vinland
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plenty of hands will bet this out, Tx, Jx (like QJ, KJ). TJ is in range.
He may have a mid PP.
You have A high, it might be best but building a pot w/ A high is not going to be profitable in ther long run.
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spoonitnow
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He doesn't have to improve on the turn to play it this way and still be betting for value.
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Two Pair
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So it's a fold on the turn, right?
What do you guys think about the c-bet on the flop?
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Carroters
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4-of-a-Kind
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Just c/f this flop 3 ways, it hits their ranges reasonably well and you're just not going to have sufficient equity when called or get 2 folds enough of the time for this to be profitable.
As played c/f the turn.
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paratrooper99
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At 10nl and lower, c-betting is rarely profitable. AK and AQ need to hit to bet the flop. As played check/fold the turn and consider bringing down c-bet to 25% of heads up flops.
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JKDS
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Originally Posted by paratrooper99
At 10nl and lower, c-betting is rarely profitable. AK and AQ need to hit to bet the flop. As played check/fold the turn and consider bringing down c-bet to 25% of heads up flops.
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Um, wtf? This is completely wrong
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Originally Posted by OngBonga
But no, jkds is lolvillager and anyone who wants to string him up is sighbad.
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HarleyGuy13
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Quote:
Originally Posted by paratrooper99
At 10nl and lower, c-betting is rarely profitable. AK and AQ need to hit to bet the flop. As played check/fold the turn and consider bringing down c-bet to 25% of heads up flops.
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Ummm wat? Please explain this!
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kmind
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C-betting a good amount is def. profitable at lower stakes. Do not cbet this hand. C/f every street.
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Two Pair
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Actually`, right now, I c-bet almost every (95%) HU pot with a success rate of 59%. I know that c-betting every flop is probably really bad, but how do I distinguish betwenn a good and a bad flop for a c-bet?
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Full House
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Quote:
Originally Posted by paratrooper99
At 10nl and lower, c-betting is rarely profitable. AK and AQ need to hit to bet the flop. As played check/fold the turn and consider bringing down c-bet to 25% of heads up flops.
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I'd go as far as to say cbetting 100% of HU pots would be better than not cbetting at all.
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hey guys, if you ever make a snap call on the river when your opponent raises you're fucking retarded.
Fucking. Retarded.
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At stakes where people are just playing fit or fold and playing a really wide range preflop, c betting 80% or so is totally fine. c-betting 100% is vastly superior to c betting 25% of the time. Just be careful in multiway pots especially where the flop is good for your opponents ranges, like this one.
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