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Elrohir44
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03-15-2009, 04:18 AM
Post subject: $5NL AQ flop TP
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Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Riverside, CA
Posts: 37
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Villain is 28/19/5 over only 21 hands. No other reads to note.
I keep running into situations like this which is why I am a big loser w/ AQ and KJ, etc. When you flop good with hands like this and face aggression from relatively unknown villains when OOP what do you do? At these stakes this kind of aggression usually means a strong hand but can I really get away from this here?
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (5 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
Hero (BB) ($5)
UTG ($8.47)
MP ($19.66)
Button ($7.78)
SB ($10.34)
Preflop: Hero is BB with A , Q
2 folds, Button calls $0.05, 1 fold, Hero bets $0.20, Button calls $0.15
Flop: ($0.42) 3, 10 , A (2 players)
Hero bets $0.30, Button raises to $1, Hero raises to $2.25, Button raises to $7.58 (All-In), Hero ...?
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LuckySlevin
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Join Date: Jul 2008
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Hmm he's playing far too many hands, so AT is in his range here, as are 3's - I'd fancy him raising TT here, so think we can discount that. You have TPGK, not a good hand to be swapping stacks with! Good bet on the flop, me I would call his re-raise, check fold turn. Or as played definately fold to the all in.
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Elrohir44
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Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Riverside, CA
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I do not understand why I would call and then c/f turn here. Since he is almost certain to cbet the turn it seems like a call on flop is -ev if I am planning to fold to a turn bet. Could you explain that move for me?
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LuckySlevin
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Full House
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When someone bets at an ace flop after raising pre I put them on a strong hand (TPTK or better) 50% of the time, and a cbet that has missed the ace the other 50% of the time. That is why I would be inclined to call here, in case he is trying to fold your standard cbet that his missed the flop. If he bets out on the turn again, I would read him having limped AK (yes some people actually do limp AK) or having hit his 33's or AT either way he has you crushed, which is why I would check fold to any turn aggression. Of course he could be bluffing you, but unless I knew otherwise that would be my standard line here.
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Elrohir44
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Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Riverside, CA
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OK, I understand. Oftentimes I forget to use level 3 thinking when I am not bluffing (What does he think I have?). I basically put him on a hand I could beat, probably AJ, and figured it was best to push him in. I have been overvaluing TPTK type hands lately, and I need to work on pot control. I get into trouble very easily by underestimating people at these stakes.
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amir is cool
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3-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: NY
Posts: 108
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Here's good article I read today about AQ:
http://www.pokerlistings.com/strateg...orst-best-hand
AQ is a a near premium hand for the late stages of tourney play if you aren't in a good m-zone. In a ring game though it can get you into quite a bit of trouble.
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Monsieur_chat
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Flush
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: London
Posts: 254
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But we call with AK right?!?!?
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oskar
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: in ur accounts... confiscating ur funz
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When you 3-bet you're really turning your hand into a bluff. Unless you've seen him reraise tpnk before I think this is a really bad 3-bet.
You really need a plan before you do that. You have to decide if you're going to 3-bet/call or 3-bet/fold and why.
This hand is copletely read dependent. If you've seen him spazz out after the flop before, then this is an easy spot.
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