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flintyglint
Old 04-19-2009, 10:09 AM     Post subject: $2nl full ring - drawing to a flush #1 (permalink)  
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what should i have not done here and why? thanks, guys

mp1's stats are; vpip 20, pfr 13, AF 0.50

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MP3 ($0.85)
Hero (CO) ($5.76)
Button ($4.93)
SB ($5.08)
BB ($0.90)
UTG ($0.51)
UTG+1 ($5)
MP1 ($1.66)
MP2 ($0.94)

Preflop: Hero is CO with ,
UTG calls $0.02, UTG+1 (poster) checks, MP1 bets $0.08, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.16, 5 folds, MP1 calls $0.08

Flop: ($0.39) , , (2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero bets $0.39, MP1 calls $0.39

Turn: ($1.17) (2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero bets $1.17, MP1 calls $1.11 (All-In)

River: ($3.39) (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $3.39 | Rake: $0.16
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Old 04-19-2009, 11:19 AM #2 (permalink)  
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Old 04-19-2009, 11:45 AM #3 (permalink)  
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pro = good? bad?

i should have put the results in the hand.

{edited by Stax to remove the results}
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Old 04-19-2009, 11:52 AM #4 (permalink)  
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 Pro = professional.

This is sarcasm.

I generally 3bet for 3x the raise amount (although this may be wrong.)
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Old 04-19-2009, 12:05 PM #5 (permalink)  
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 Why should you have put the results in the hand? WHAT THE FUCK?

I'm failing to understand if people are reading the forums and just not understanding the multiple occurrences of people saying things like "quit minraising all the time" or "don't post results", or if they just don't read the responses, or don't care.

I removed your printing of the results. Let the thread build a little before you go and start posting the results imo. It can sway people's decisions, etc. If you want to tell the results later, I'm fine with that, but at least wait longer than a few hours before you go and tell the very meaningless results.
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Old 04-19-2009, 12:07 PM #6 (permalink)  
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what determined your 3bet size?
what range does he call with pre?
what range does he call with on the flop?
why put him all in on the turn? for value or as a semibluff?
what hands that called flop are folding on the turn?
why not take a free card on the turn?
 
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Old 04-19-2009, 01:23 PM #7 (permalink)  
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Originally Posted by flintyglint
what should i have not done here and why?
bad 3b size, flop cbet is too big, not a particularly good card to double barrel.

1. 3bet bigger as a general rule I re-raise a std 3 or 4 time open 3x IP and 4x OOP

2. On the flop, you don't really have anything, apart from a K high FD. It might not even be any good, he may have Ahx, he may have flopped a flush or a set or have Qx or a PP of some description. A lot of the time here you are goign to have good fold equity, there's no need to bet full pot. A smeller bet will take it down if he has air or soemthing that can't really call a bet. I'd cbet a fair amount %wise, but make it more like 2/3.

3. On the turn, ok he called, so he has something. Qx is now calling us as are flopped sets/turned boats/quads if we shove. PPs may still call us, Ahx may still call us, but we are ahead of that most the time, unless he has Ahx witha pair. We could take a free card, which I think is advisable, shut down if we miss, vbet if checked to and I'd have to think if he donked.
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Old 04-19-2009, 03:59 PM #8 (permalink)  
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AK is our 3bet friend.

he raises 4x to 0.08c, you raise (especially with AK) to 3 or 4 that, so i would say about .30c or like 0.24c, you'll get paid of nice when you hit and even if you don't in position.

Flop: well, had you 3bet bigger and he called, the pot is now around 0.60c so bet about 0.40c and be prepared to fold to a check raise or any heat but remember that you have the 2nd nut flush card still and two streets to find it. Note that you bet full pot on a dangerous board to cbet, don't build the pot so much.

Turn card you can check behind him and get a free river. Queens are in his range here. That second queen could be dangerous. At these stakes people slow play so don't expect them to fire off with the nuts.

River would be tricky for me to advise. Check if he does and hope that your AK could somehow still be good. But either way, you're probably done with the hand, maybe he'll turn over 2h7h at these takes!
 
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Old 04-19-2009, 04:40 PM #10 (permalink)  
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Old 04-19-2009, 05:30 PM #11 (permalink)  
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flop bet should be smaller and you should check behind the turn to try to get that heart

what are you trying to get him to fold on the turn?
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