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Old 04-23-2009, 07:26 AM     Post subject: $25nl - What's your opinion on 3-barrelling here BvB #1 (permalink)  
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 Villain is about 15/10ish so far though small sample.
He's also playing multiple tables.

River looked great to bluff, so I went for it. Thoughts?

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Preflop: Hero is SB with K, Q
5 folds, Hero bets $1, BB calls $0.75

Flop: ($2) 3, 7, 5 (2 players)
Hero bets $1.50, BB calls $1.50

Turn: ($5) 7 (2 players)
Hero bets $3, BB calls $3

River: ($11) A (2 players)
Hero bets $6
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Old 04-23-2009, 07:29 AM #2 (permalink)  
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 I'd be showing up as nitty on his HUD so far fwiw
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Old 04-23-2009, 03:32 PM #3 (permalink)  
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 I don't mind the river but I don't like the turn
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Old 04-23-2009, 03:57 PM #4 (permalink)  
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I don't mind the river but I don't like the turn
this. i don't think we're scaring away a very large portion of his range (which is predominantly overpairs and sevens) with this bet
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Old 04-23-2009, 05:34 PM #5 (permalink)  
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 I don't like 4x steal from the sb. You're oop, and a smaller bet usually takes it. I generally don't steal for more then 3-3.5x, and lately I've been just minraising from the sb. lots of multi tablers use auto fold, and I don't think your fold equity is diminished by a lot...

That's close to the worst flop to c-bet. Steal stats are way more important than 15/10 here btw... Vpip/pfr doesn't really apply here, unless it's 80/3 or something. I wouldn't expect Ax, 4x, 6x or any pp to fold that flop, and a fair amount of time he'll just float you with xx, because even xx has at least 6 outs to top pair here, but not enough that you could bet KQ high for value either.

Turn is a very bad card to barrel. You're repping such a narrow range, when he knows how wide your range is pf.
On the river - if you had checked the flop, or c-bet the flop and checked the turn, then it would be a great card to bluff... but you did all you could to rep an overpair... and even though the A is really a blank now, I think it makes your line look even more bluffy because a lot of people would go into c/c mode now with 99 or TT - which makes no sense, but it's a common line.
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I don't mind the river but I don't like the turn
This, except Id make the river $7.50 - $8.
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Old 04-23-2009, 05:43 PM     Post subject: Re: $25nl - What's your opinion on 3-barrelling here BvB #7 (permalink)  
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UTG ($5)
MP1 ($55.30)
MP2 ($25)
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Preflop: Hero is BB with 5, 6
5 folds, SB bets $1, Hero calls $0.75

Flop: ($2) 3, 7, 5 (2 players)
SB bets $1.50, Hero calls $1.50

Turn: ($5) 7 (2 players)
SB bets $3, Hero calls $3

River: ($11) A (2 players)
SB bets $6 Hero ?
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Old 04-23-2009, 10:23 PM #8 (permalink)  
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 Yeah the c-bet blows.

I barrelled the turn because I figure he's floating me with almost 100% of his range, and I didn't think he'd call 2 barrells with just broadways or Ax so I could fold out any Ax hand that isn't paired for some fold equity. I also figured I could bluff/value bet any J, Q, K, or A on the river which gives me about 12-14 outs, since it's likely he doesn't have any of these in his range on the river.

Is ^ line of thinking bad?

I made it $6 on the river because I felt it was the smallest size of bet I could get away with for repping the ace.

I think I hate the flop most, followed by the turn, and I thought the river was alright I guess.
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Yeah the c-bet blows.

I barrelled the turn because I figure he's floating me with almost 100% of his range, and I didn't think he'd call 2 barrells with just broadways or Ax so I could fold out any Ax hand that isn't paired for some fold equity. I also figured I could bluff/value bet any J, Q, K, or A on the river which gives me about 12-14 outs, since it's likely he doesn't have any of these in his range on the river.

Is ^ line of thinking bad?

I made it $6 on the river because I felt it was the smallest size of bet I could get away with for repping the ace.

I think I hate the flop most, followed by the turn, and I thought the river was alright I guess.
OK, you fold out every ace that doesn't pair or have a gutshot
So A8, A9, AT, AJ, AQ, AK
that's 7x16 = 104 hands
you are also getting called by any PP, any 7x, any 5x, any 3x
ace + gutshot, oesd, other gutshots, backdoor flush draws
I don't even need to count, he has over 200 hand combos on the turn that will see a river
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