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arkitekton
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08-19-2006, 02:44 AM
Post subject: Your Worst Day Ever
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Flush
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: canada
Posts: 269
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I'm not posting this to get a bad beat day thread going, but to try to get/give some measure of the severity of downswings on a per day or per seesion basis. I remember how shocked I was to drop 133 big bets in ten hours (935 hands), and had no idea whether, after playing for four months, this was normal, or inevitable, or suggestive that despite doing well until that point I was actually clueless...
So that was my worst day ever. It was the $1/2 game at Party, which until then I had been beating regularly (1.5 to 3.5 BB/100). I learned more a month or two later about how to use pokertracker stats to analyze my game, and was able to see that about 75% of my losses were due to luck--instead of winning 8.87% of pots (my long term average), I won 6.20% during the disastrous session. Instead of 36%, my W$WSF was 24%. Instead of winning at showdown 53% of the time, I was cashing in only 38% of the time. A lot of losing hands were suckouts, or flopping something like top pair top kicker versus a set. Most of my mistakes resulted from loose calls on the flop that caught a second best hand on the turn, and two obvious tilts.
So I thought I'd pass on that it was very useful to me to learn that 100BB downswings in one day can happen due essentially to luck. Haven't had anything like it since, and my second worst sessions run about 8-10 BB/100 over 500-600 hands. I've probably had 5 or 6 of those in about 7 months.
I'd be very interested to hear from other players on this subject.
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Dislexsik
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Full House
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: On the grind
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I dropped 10 buy ins in 2 hours.
Played lower stakes and dropped another 8 buy ins in a 4 hour session.
Im down 20 buy ins now and im still in a downswing after almost 2 months.Most of it when i got the money in when they were behind.
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elipsesjeff
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Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Northern Virginia
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I've been known to drop 150 BB in 2k hand days. Figure out that negative winrate, as its happened a couple days this month.
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arkitekton
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Flush
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: canada
Posts: 269
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Dis--
for us limit addicts, please explain a buy-in. Or is that the standard 25x the big bet most sites use as the default amount at limit?
jeff--
that doesn't seem too bad, unless it happens regularly. -7.5 BB/100 isn't pleasant, but seems to fall within the range of normal unhappy variance...
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Harry
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Full House
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Philly
Posts: 722
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I dropped about 100 bets my first 1k hands at 2/4. (I ended up down about 180 bets and am back at 1/2 =P)
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PSU Class of 2011 weeeeeeee!
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Dislexsik
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Full House
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: On the grind
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by arkitekton
Dis--
for us limit addicts, please explain a buy-in. Or is that the standard 25x the big bet most sites use as the default amount at limit?
jeff--
that doesn't seem too bad, unless it happens regularly. -7.5 BB/100 isn't pleasant, but seems to fall within the range of normal unhappy variance...
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a buy in is 100bb's on party
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euphoricism
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Your place or my place
Posts: 3,610
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At 6max, I've dropped 120ish bets in a given 1500-2000 hand stretch. Of course, i've done that a few days in a row, too...
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midas06
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: NZ
Posts: 2,196
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2k at 5/10 and 10/20
1.4k at 5/10
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Chopper
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Straight Flush
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: St. Louis, MO
Posts: 4,255
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may be a little late in replying, but just last night.
dropped $50 at .5/1 and 1/2, mostly 1/2 in 304 hands. very dry cards...
couldnt hit a flop and most of my marginals were dealt in ep (where i wont play them). table image quickly became rockish and got action on one of the 5-6 solid hands (that's it, honestly) that i did hit. therefore, never got the cards to reverse my table image, and on a friday night, not into "gambling" w/o a serious draw.
there's my justification, but all in all, a horrible night on the tables.
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LHE is a game where your skill keeps you breakeven until you hit your rush of random BS.
Nothing beats flopping quads while dropping a duece!
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arkitekton
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Flush
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: canada
Posts: 269
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Sounds like all the ingredients for a standard bad day at the tables--had one myself last night. Weak starting hands, I'd catch a well concealed full house and everyone would mysteriously fold... All I can figure on these is to work at losing the least possible amount--no tilting, chasing, and so on. The bad nights are the price we pay for the good nights, I guess.
As far as table image goes, if you were online, why not just switch tables?
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