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KoRnholio

11-22-2005, 11:49 PM Post subject: Your line?

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Preflop: Hero is Button with J

, J

.
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, 2 folds, MP2 calls, 1 fold, CO calls, Hero raises, 2 folds, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls, CO calls.

Flop: (11.50 SB) Q

, 3

, J

(5 players)
UTG bets, UTG+1 calls, MP2 folds, CO raises, Hero calls, UTG 3-bets, UTG+1 calls, CO caps, Hero calls, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: (13.75 BB) 2

(4 players)
UTG checks, UTG+1 bets, CO calls, Hero...

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11-22-2005, 11:56 PM

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umm intreasting... no limp raises PF, then all hell breaks loose on the flop, then i'd give it a call and hope for a boat or quads, this pot is so big you can't fold for one bet you're getting 13.75:1 on the call with 10 outs or 3.8:1 odds easy call for one...

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11-22-2005, 11:59 PM

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I really want to raise, but probably just call. I don't see any hands you want to fold getting out of the pot and pairs may as well hang around for the river.

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11-23-2005, 12:54 AM

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Results:

Turn: (13.75 BB) 2

(4 players)
UTG checks, UTG+1 bets, CO calls, Hero raises, UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, CO calls.

River: (20.75 BB) T

(3 players)
UTG checks, CO bets, Hero calls, UTG calls.

Final Pot: 23.75 BB

Results in white below:
UTG has Qs Jh (two pair, queens and jacks).
CO has Td Kd (flush, king high).
Hero has Js Jc (three of a kind, jacks).
Outcome: CO wins 23.75 BB.

As soon as I clicked raise I realized I probably just should have called. My thinking at the time was "I don't think UTG+1 has a flush, let's see what he does. If he just calls maybe I get a free showdown...".

My call on the end was a crying call.. I figured CO had likely made a straight because he didn't raise on the turn (his call closed the action on the turn).

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11-23-2005, 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Fnord

I really want to raise, but probably just call. I don't see any hands you want to fold getting out of the pot and pairs may as well hang around for the river.

auto-raise for me. you're raising after a call + limp, so realistically you're only going to fold UTG, and i doubt they will fold either given they 3bet the flop.

and if for some weird reason they do fold, UTG+1 and CO will definitely call 1 more bet, making you +1 BB vs just calling and letting UTG in for 1 more.

i call down after a turn 3bet.

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11-23-2005, 01:04 AM

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How often does a hand worse than a flush 3-bet here? How often do you think UTG+1 (or someone else) has the flush given the action so far?

CO's lack of a 3-bet on the turn saved you some money here.

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11-23-2005, 01:07 AM

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haha i was right calling was the best line given i know his hand... i figured he was behind that's why i said call... and hope for you 10 outer... i mean i think i might cry and call the river too but i seriously don't think your good here very offten... i understand why he calped FD and an OESD i cap too... GAMB00L!!!

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11-23-2005, 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Fnord

CO's lack of a 3-bet on the turn saved you some money here.

Probably. Although if I was just a wee bit tighter I might find a fold on the river unimproved if he 3bet the turn...

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11-23-2005, 01:46 AM

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Probably. Although if I was just a wee bit tighter I might find a fold on the river unimproved if he 3bet the turn...

I pay it off every time. Had 3 sets busted last night (AA/KK ran bad too), paid every one off.

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11-23-2005, 02:23 AM

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11-23-2005, 02:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Muxy

I play it the same.

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