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Old 07-19-2006, 04:49 AM     Post subject: Yet another hand with overs #1 (permalink)  
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Hand #369706827 at table: Table TH 105
Started: Tue Jul 18 00:20:11 2006

_Vrax_ is at seat 1 with 122.12
kanoedel is at seat 2 with 21.75
matsew2 is at seat 3 with 24.50
GandHand is at seat 4 with 34.75
mr_twister is at seat 5 with 64.49
Saxon4 is at seat 6 with 16.25
pejsek is at seat 7 with 3.75
ivek2 is at seat 8 with 4.75
jmb73 is at seat 9 with 2.65
loketana is at seat 10 with 38.75

_Vrax_ posts the large blind 0.50
loketana posts the small blind 0.25
ivek2 posts all blind 0.75

loketana: --, --
_Vrax_: :Ad:, :Kh:
kanoedel: --, --
matsew2: --, --
GandHand: --, --
mr_twister: --, --
Saxon4: --, --
pejsek: --, --
jmb73: --, --

Pre-flop:

kanoedel: Call 0.50
matsew2: Fold
GandHand: Fold
mr_twister: Fold
Saxon4: Raise 1.00
pejsek: Fold
jmb73: Fold
loketana: Fold
_Vrax_: Raise 1.50
kanoedel: Call 1.50
Saxon4: Call 1.50

Flop (Board: :Jc:, , ):

_Vrax_: Bet 0.50
kanoedel: Call 0.50
Saxon4: Call 0.50

Turn (Board: :Jc:, , , :Kc:

_Vrax_: Bet 1.00
kanoedel: Raise 2.00
Saxon4: Call 2.00
_Vrax_: ?
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Old 07-19-2006, 05:03 AM #2 (permalink)  
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 Lets think what kanoedel could have cold called preflop. Was this player any good, it could be likely he/she has KJ, but I don't seeing the player having any other two pair. A set is somewhat possible, but wouldn't he have raised the flop with flush and straight draws present? I think the other player has the Ac or Qc. Something like AQo with one being a club. I could be way off base here but if I were you I would call the turn. You've hit your hand, and now you want to fold after you've built a sizeable pot? However, a call here may be a pretty weak play. You've represented a big hand the entire time and you get raised on the turn, hmmm...that would slow a lot of ppl down. I think it's KJ, if it is a good player there are just not many other cold calling hands that can raise here. Tell me what ya think...
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Old 07-19-2006, 08:22 AM #3 (permalink)  

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In this situation fold! U have done your best to build the pot.

But now there is a flushdraw on the board and u are still up against two players! Cuz Saxon4 already called.
So give the hand away.
If u are up against one player just call it down, against two or more fold. The board is too coordinated.
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Old 07-19-2006, 09:04 AM #4 (permalink)  
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What'cha think of your opponents?

In some games you can lay this down. However, it's a big pot and looking it up can't be a huge mistake.
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Old 07-19-2006, 04:03 PM #5 (permalink)  
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 can u c/c (bet/call even) the turn and look up any club free river?
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Old 07-20-2006, 08:23 AM #6 (permalink)  
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Generally, the tables I'm playing are pretty loose preflop but opponents will seldom raise turn with worse than split two pair hand.

My first thought was "KJ" and I'm drawing to 3 outs and against flush I draw dead. If I had 1 club in my hand or no flush on board I'd insta-call and try to redraw and look him up if I missed just because for pot odds.

I behaved weaktight and mucked, don't know if it was mistake or not, opponent bet river and 2nd caller donk-folded so no showdown, it was pretty screwed hand...

What odds are needed for crying calldown for 2 bigbets?
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