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outphase
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07-03-2005, 05:31 AM
Post subject: Won the hand, but right play?
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Full House
Join Date: Apr 2005
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I figured I'd pump the flop for value, but the turn sent up flags in my mind telling me what he had. A check/call wouldn't have given me any information, but a raise would've, hence my bet on the turn. Miracle draw on river saved me. Was my slowdown on the turn correct?
Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (8 handed) converter
Preflop: Hero is BB with A , A . UTG+1 posts a blind of $2.
UTG calls, UTG+1 (poster) checks, 4 folds, SB completes, Hero raises, UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, SB calls.
Flop: (7 SB) A , T, Q (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, UTG raises, SB folds, Hero 3-bets, UTG caps, Hero calls.
Turn: (7.50 BB) 6 (2 players)
Hero bets, UTG raises, Hero calls.
River: (11.50 BB) 6 (2 players)
Hero bets, UTG raises, Hero 3-bets, UTG calls.
Final Pot: 17.50 BB
Results in white below:
Hero has Ac Ah (full house, aces full of sixes).
UTG has Kc Jc (straight, ace high).
Outcome: Hero wins 17.50 BB.
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Demiparadigm
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4-of-a-Kind
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I like it. If you are behind, you have 10 outs, and a lot of the time you are not behind. I think a check call on teh river would be correct if your full didn't come through.
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To win in poker you only need to be one step ahead of your opponents. Two steps may be detrimental.
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Nehmer
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Full House
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Decatur, IL
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That's kinda a tough decision. I think I would be more inclined to 3-bet the turn, because most people with the straight would probably not cap the flop to keep you from slowing down on the turn. I think the way you played it is fine too though.
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Fnord
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Easy turn 3-bet. If he flopped the broadway then good for him. Too many hands you beat and worst case you have lots of outs. Hardly a river miracle.
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StinkyBeaver
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Flush
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Denmark
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So 3-bet is the best move even though it probably will get capped.?
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Fnord
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by StinkyBeaver
So 3-bet is the best move even though it probably will get capped.?
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Oh no, he's capping when I probably have the best hand, and fail that am drawing very live. Gosh, darn!
1,628 games 0.005 secs 325,600 games/sec
Board: As Tc Qd 6s
Dead:
equity (%) win (%) / tie (%)
Hand 1: 65.6634 % [ 00.66 00.00 ] { AhAc }
Hand 2: 34.3366 % [ 00.34 00.00 ] { QQ, TT, AQs, ATs, KJs, QTs, AQo, ATo, KJo, QTo }
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StinkyBeaver
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Flush
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Denmark
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I'm still such a wuss. Hopefully over time I'll leave my weakness behind. Surely you are good here a lot of the time, and as you mentioned you are drwing very live.
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bencathers
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Flush
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Manhattan & Boston
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Hey, if he 3 bets you on the river, more power to him (not giving you credit for a set). On the flop, you represented a straight or set. The river gave you the boat. If he can't pick up on you on the flop, then go for it. Well played with a nice fish overvaluing KJ suited (and being overly estatic about flopping a flush... probably calling you a fish for hitting the boat on the river, with him capping the bets despite the board pairing... I'm adding him to my buddy list)
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outphase
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Full House
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Originally Posted by bencathers
Hey, if he 3 bets you on the river, more power to him (not giving you credit for a set). On the flop, you represented a straight or set. The river gave you the boat. If he can't pick up on you on the flop, then go for it. Well played with a nice fish overvaluing KJ suited (and being overly estatic about flopping a flush... probably calling you a fish for hitting the boat on the river, with him capping the bets despite the board pairing... I'm adding him to my buddy list)
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Whoa there ben, he didn't overvalue it. He flopped the nut straight and called my 3 bet on the river with the paired board. Just calling instead of raising told me that flags went up in his head that he knew I hit my boat. Villian didn't call me a fish (to my face). He claimed he had a smaller boat.
Thanks for the input guys. Against most opps I'd 3 bet the turn, but something told me to slow down on the turn based on something in pokeredge. I completely neglected the fact I had 10 outs... I was too busy trying to cut my losses because I put him on the made straight.
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bencathers
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Flush
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Sorry, I guess I meant him re-raising your bet on the river (though it seems if he was first, he would of made the initial bet)
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bencathers
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Flush
Join Date: Jun 2005
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"Claimed he had a smaller boat"... curious as to what the other FTR pros think of that (when someone loses, but claims they had an almost as good hand, when that wasn't true)... or should that be a question in the "playing the player" forum... never knew what to make of it
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outphase
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Full House
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 949
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i guess he was trying to make me think i was ahead the whole time. I noticed on a WPT ep from s1, they had a little note saying that poker players tend to lie about their holdings after a hand when mucking. I disregard what I'm told with words and let the cards speak.
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Originally Posted by lambchopdc
Lets stop talking ABC poker and move on to D, E, and F.
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TylerK
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4-of-a-Kind
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I'm going to 3-bet this turn against all but the tightest raisers. Otherwise fine.
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TylerK: its just gambling if i want to worry about money i'll go to work lol
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