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The_Bankroll
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10-29-2005, 04:08 PM
Post subject: why play 6-max?
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I was wondering is there any reason to play 6-max instead of full ring. I know there is more variance, but is there an onverall higher BB/100? or do people just play 6-max because they think it suits their style more? I am also curious as to what a good BB/100 for 6-max is.
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Les_Worm
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In 6-max if you are good at it I think you have a larger edge over your opponets b/c I think there are more people that play 6-max poorly then there are that play full ring poorly. 6-max is a completely different animal where smart aggression is key. There are many times (depending on the level you play) when you may get 3 bet on any given street with Ace high. You need to know when to make these plays and when people are making them against you. People call down with some pretty weak holdings in this game and often times its just a high card. The variance is sick but there is alot of money to be made as well if you know what you are doing. I played 6-max for a while but don't like the swings or having to make much more decisions. I don't feel my 6-max game is very strong. As far as bb/100 goes, anything positive.
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don't bluff as much, but just be willing to play some weak holdings aggressively to really beat the game for a healthy rate.
The last 2k hands I played at 6max I ran 7+bb/100
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- generally the BB/100 will be less than full ring, but the BB/hr will be higher.
- variance goes way up.
- more profitable for players good at making many marginal decisions
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Demiparadigm
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To win in poker you only need to be one step ahead of your opponents. Two steps may be detrimental.
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elipsesjeff
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Learning and beating 6 max is absolutely necessary to win at the higher limit tables.
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StinkyBeaver
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Originally Posted by elipsesjeff
Learning and beating 6 max is absolutely necessary to win at the higher limit tables.
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Which is why I'm inthere playing learning and geting a feel for SH games.
I think the good players have a larger edge over the mediocre players in SH games than in fullring.
Playing 6max can be very fun also since you have to swim into new waters and get comfortable with them very uncomfortable plays.
Also many of the "fish" prefer SH games thus you can almost always find a goodt table. I don't know how game selection is at 5/10 and 10/20 full but from what I've heard these games are pretty darn tight.
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10/20's not tight.. it's agressive.
a lot of tables are around 30/15
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To win in poker you only need to be one step ahead of your opponents. Two steps may be detrimental.
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StinkyBeaver
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Thats pretty darn aggressive. Anyways I've still heard these games are pretty bad and you don't have the same ammount of tableselection as you have in the SH games I think...
Now SH games have wild swings also because of aggression, I take these fullring games must have aswell...?
I'd like to do more fullring play but I don't think it's wise to mix it up so I'm sticking with SH games for now.
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Originally Posted by StinkyBeaver
I'd like to do more fullring play but I don't think it's wise to mix it up so I'm sticking with SH games for now.
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I'm the opposite, but the same applies. I'd like to get into the world of 6-max, but I'm sure it would mess up my full ring game temporarily 
I have a hard enough time switching gears for 25% VPIP and 35% VPIP tables.
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No doubt good players can play both the same time, but when you are starting out with something I think it's important to stick with it until you drop below BR requirments or till you have decent sample of winning play along with a healthy confidence in this new game.
No doubt you'll have to play a couple of sessions each time you switch before you find your game again.
But in the long run I think you gain by trying new games thus have more experience in different situations.
So come on over and try the SH action theres lots..!!
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Originally Posted by elipsesjeff
Learning and beating 6 max is absolutely necessary to win at the higher limit tables.
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When would you advise you need to make this transition (I'm just guessing here)?
Play 2/4 6max before 3/6 Full Ring?
Play 3/6 6max before 5/10 Full Ring?
5/10 6max before a limit I will never reach?
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I lost 70BBs today at 5/10 6 max...
made 4 back in rakeback though...
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To win in poker you only need to be one step ahead of your opponents. Two steps may be detrimental.
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Nehmer
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Originally Posted by StinkyBeaver
I'd like to do more fullring play but I don't think it's wise to mix it up so I'm sticking with SH games for now.
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If this is a problem for you, then it probably means that your game is way too mechanical right now and mixing it up with both full and SH play will help you more than anything else will. It will force you to start actually analyzing the situation instead of just playing your hands the same way everytime.
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elipsesjeff
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Originally Posted by RubixSoHo
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Originally Posted by elipsesjeff
Learning and beating 6 max is absolutely necessary to win at the higher limit tables.
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When would you advise you need to make this transition (I'm just guessing here)?
Play 2/4 6max before 3/6 Full Ring?
Play 3/6 6max before 5/10 Full Ring?
5/10 6max before a limit I will never reach? |
You can start playing 2/4 6 max whenever you feel like. As long as you have a solid full ring game i'd go ASAP.
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