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G_host
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04-20-2005, 07:23 PM
Post subject: Why? (LC)
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Straight
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Sweden
Posts: 227
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Can anyone give me a reason for the raises on the turn?
Oh well two new buddies on the list...
Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (9 handed) converter
Preflop: Hero is UTG with K , J. CO posts a blind of $0.5. MP2 posts a blind of $0.5.
Hero calls, 1 fold, MP1 calls, MP2 (poster) checks, MP3 calls, CO (poster) checks, Button calls, SB completes, BB checks.
Flop: (8 SB) 4 , K , 3 (8 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets, MP1 calls, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, CO folds, Button calls, SB calls, BB folds.
Turn: (6 BB) J (4 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, MP1 calls, Button raises, SB 3-bets, Hero caps, MP1 folds, Button calls, SB calls.
River: (19 BB) 2 (3 players)
SB bets, Hero calls, Button calls.
Final Pot: 22 BB
Results in white below:
Hero has Kd Jd (two pair, kings and jacks).
Button has Jh Qs (one pair, jacks).
SB has 5c Ah (straight, five high).
Outcome: SB wins 22 BB.
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Trikflow77
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Full House
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Raise that hand preflop and you might get rid of that naked ace.
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DaNutsInYoEye
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: St. Louis
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raising UTG with KJs at the Party .5/1 tables wont get rid of very many people...
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TheXianti: (Triptanes) why are you not a thinking person?
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G_host
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Straight
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Sweden
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Nope, well this was in the first ten hands but from what I had sawn this was a VERY loose table and SB was the worst of them. Before he left I had him at 80% so I dinät think that would ahve worked but you right maybe I should have done that.
Still explain for me what going through his mind when he 3-bets the turn with no flush draw, and ace with a 5 kicker and a tainted gutshot draw? Oh well not whining just can't figure out if this was some kind of divine move that is too good for me to understand or just plain really really stupid.. 
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Strung
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Straight
Join Date: Mar 2005
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maybe he thought he was "value-betting" his inside straight draw there.
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Demiparadigm
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4-of-a-Kind
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He knew it was coming.
I play against psychic raisers all the time.
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To win in poker you only need to be one step ahead of your opponents. Two steps may be detrimental.
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pokerfanatic
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4-of-a-Kind
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I lost AQs 3 times yesterday to A2o raising preflop doesn't do shit at most tables of .5/1... Except build a pot…
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ChezJ
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Full House
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this same exact thing happened to me the other day. guy had a gutshot (i think it was a wheel too) and limped the flop, raised the turn, hit his 4-outer against all odds. if i didn't know any better i'd say he was cheating somehow.
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rmariani
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Straight
Join Date: Feb 2005
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by Demiparadigm
I play against psychic raisers all the time.
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LoL
Now, that's an interesting and true concept
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koolmoe
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Full House
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by trikflow77
Raise that hand preflop and you might get rid of that naked ace.
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Raise it for value. Worse hands will frequently call in that game. JTo will call a raise from UTG in that game many times.
In a tough game, always raising KJs from early position is a marginal play, IMO, since when you are called (or more likely three bet), you will almost always be behind (possibly dominated) and playing out of position. I think it is better to mix it up as the game gets tougher, and I typically vary my pattern depending on recent action.
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G_host
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Straight
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Sweden
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Well whis wasn't a though game, the hands showned on the last 3 rounds before this was almost all High card Low card offsuit junk
Otherwise I wouldn't have raised KJS from EP.
But hey I made my money back just wanted to post this because I could get a grip on how he was thinking. Oh well have him tagged so I'll be seeing him soon again
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