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elipsesjeff
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10-16-2005, 05:44 AM
Post subject: Who said this game was hard?
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Party Poker 30/60 Hold'em (8 handed) converter
Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with T , A .
1 fold, Hero raises, 3 folds, Button calls, 1 fold, BB calls.
Flop: (6.50 SB) J , K , 5 (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, Button raises, BB folds, Hero calls.
Turn: (5.25 BB) K (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets, Hero raises, Button calls.
River: (9.25 BB) Q (2 players)
Hero bets, Button calls.
Final Pot: 11.25 BB
Results in white below:
Hero has Td Ad (straight flush, ace high).
Button has 6h 6d (two pair, kings and sixes).
Outcome: Hero wins 11.25 BB.
Then the very next hand:
Party Poker 30/60 Hold'em (7 handed) converter
Preflop: Hero is BB with 7 , 7 .
UTG raises, 2 folds, CO calls, 2 folds, Hero calls.
Flop: (6.50 SB) 7 , 9 , 9 (3 players)
Hero bets, UTG raises, CO calls, Hero calls.
Turn: (6.25 BB) Q (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets, CO raises, Hero 3-bets, UTG calls, CO caps, Hero calls, UTG calls.
River: (18.25 BB) 8 (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, CO bets, Hero calls, UTG calls.
Final Pot: 21.25 BB
Results in white below:
UTG has Ac Qd (two pair, queens and nines).
CO has Tc 9c (three of a kind, nines).
Hero has 7d 7c (full house, sevens full of nines).
Outcome: Hero wins 21.25 BB.
I 8 tabling
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Shark Bait
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Flush
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The only royal flush I've gotten was at 1/2 cent. I'm jealous.
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<a500lbgorilla> Limit is poker with training wheels!
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LeFou
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i got one in the gauntlet.
i'm jealous.
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pokerfanatic
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i would be the other guy loosing to you... at least tonight i would have been...
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jmontis
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i love that turn raise in hand 1, even if it was a semi-bluff. It's almost like party rewarded you for having the balls to do it 
you must have been nutting your pants in hand 2, I woulda had IKEA on speed dial ordering new furniture
edit: jesus jeff, 8 tabling 30-60?? what will you do with all the bling, buy a car?
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take your ego out of the equation and judge the situation dispassionately
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Zinnsoldaten
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I see a lot of raising with turned draws in the 6-max 10/20+. Always nice to 3-bet and make them pay even more to draw >.<;
Is it really EV+ to raise (check-raise even, aka valuebet) that turn in hand 1, if the op will call you down w/ a pair of 6s? With an 18outer you have about 40% to take it down and there seems to be no fold EQ. Bad read?
Hand 2 I would at least bet the river and call a raise. Were you afraid of 98s? I don't think I'd be worried about QQ unless CO was very passive.
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elipsesjeff
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by Zinnsoldaten
I see a lot of raising with turned draws in the 6-max 10/20+. Always nice to 3-bet and make them pay even more to draw >.<;
Is it really EV+ to raise (check-raise even, aka valuebet) that turn in hand 1, if the op will call you down w/ a pair of 6s? With an 18outer you have about 40% to take it down and there seems to be no fold EQ. Bad read?
Hand 2 I would at least bet the river and call a raise. Were you afraid of 98s? I don't think I'd be worried about QQ unless CO was very passive.
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H1: I was getting 40% to draw out on him, and pot odds I was getting 25% for the check/raise semi-bluff to work. My line screams AK and any normal opponent is folding anything other than a J or K here. Check/raise semibluff is a good move most of the time, but if you get three bet or called you have to suck out. So, the 75% he does call or raise, I have a 40% chance of wining. That means i'm a 2-1 favorite on the turn to win the hand by running this line, whereas by check/caling i'm only going to win 40%.
H2: I put him on a bigger boat. I see the turn and my line screams boat and so did his, 9T is normally capping this turn here, I truly believe given this action, he flips 97 or 9Q. more times than not. I was thinking about betting this river, but he's likely to raise with a higher boat and quite possibly the 9s, and I'd never fold this hand.
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