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Old 05-06-2005, 09:46 PM     Post subject: What's with the TAggs these days? #1 (permalink)  
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Man, never seen so much aggression at 3/6, and it's a Friday too...

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Preflop: Fnord is UTG+1 with J, J. CO posts a blind of $3.
1 fold, Fnord raises, 1 fold, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, 5 folds.

Flop: (8.33 SB) 3, K, 5 (3 players)
Fnord bets, MP1 raises, MP2 calls, Fnord calls.

Turn: (7.16 BB) 8 (3 players)
Fnord checks, MP1 checks, MP2 checks.

River: (7.16 BB) K (3 players)
Fnord checks, MP1 checks, MP2 bets, Fnord calls, MP1 calls.

Final Pot: 10.16 BB

Results in white below:
Fnord has Js Jh (two pair, kings and jacks).
MP1 has Th Tc (two pair, kings and tens).
MP2 has 5d 6d (two pair, kings and fives).
Outcome: Fnord wins 10.16 BB.

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Preflop: Fnord is CO with T, A.
1 fold, UTG+1 calls, 3 folds, Fnord raises, 1 fold, SB 3-bets, 1 fold, UTG+1 folds, Fnord calls.

Flop: (8 SB) 4, 2, T (2 players)
SB bets, Fnord calls.

Turn: (5 BB) 3 (2 players)
SB bets, Fnord calls.

River: (7 BB) 4 (2 players)
SB checks, Fnord bets, SB calls.

Final Pot: 9 BB

Results in white below:
SB has 9c 9d (two pair, nines and fours).
Fnord has Ts As (two pair, tens and fours).
Outcome: Fnord wins 9 BB.

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Preflop: Fnord is BB with 6, K.
2 folds, MP1 calls, 4 folds, Fnord checks.

Flop: (2.33 SB) K, 8, J (2 players)
Fnord checks, MP1 bets, Fnord raises, MP1 3-bets, Fnord calls.

Turn: (4.16 BB) J (2 players)
Fnord checks, MP1 bets, Fnord calls.

River: (6.16 BB) T (2 players)
Fnord checks, MP1 checks.

Final Pot: 6.16 BB

Results in white below:
Fnord has 6h Ks (two pair, kings and jacks).
MP1 has Ad 6d (one pair, jacks).
Outcome: Fnord wins 6.16 BB.

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Preflop: Fnord is MP1 with T, K.
2 folds, Fnord raises, MP2 calls, 5 folds.

Flop: (5.33 SB) 3, T, 8 (2 players)
Fnord bets, MP2 raises, Fnord calls.

Turn: (4.66 BB) J (2 players)
Fnord checks, MP2 bets, Fnord calls.

River: (6.66 BB) 6 (2 players)
Fnord checks, MP2 bets, Fnord calls.

Final Pot: 8.66 BB

Results in white below:
Fnord has Ts Ks (one pair, tens).
MP2 has Qc Kc (high card, king).
Outcome: Fnord wins 8.66 BB.

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Preflop: Fnord is SB with Q, T.
7 folds, Fnord raises, BB calls.

Flop: (4 SB) J, K, Q (2 players)
Fnord bets, BB raises, Fnord calls.

Turn: (4 BB) J (2 players)
Fnord checks, BB bets, Fnord calls.

River: (6 BB) 6 (2 players)
Fnord checks, BB checks.

Final Pot: 6 BB

Results in white below:
BB has Ac 7s (one pair, jacks).
Fnord has Qs Th (two pair, queens and jacks).
Outcome: Fnord wins 6 BB.
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Old 05-06-2005, 10:31 PM #2 (permalink)  
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Hand 2:
I'm just curious of what you think of SB's play here to 3-bet 99. Is this too aggressive or was this correct to mget you HU?

Hand 4:
Is that a bit of an early raise for KT? I realize you are sooted but from MP1?
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Old 05-06-2005, 10:49 PM #3 (permalink)  
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Hand 2:
I'm just curious of what you think of SB's play here to 3-bet 99. Is this too aggressive or was this correct to mget you HU?
SB plays g00t.

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Hand 4:
Is that a bit of an early raise for KT? I realize you are sooted but from MP1?
I'm silly like that.
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Old 05-06-2005, 11:05 PM #4 (permalink)  
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 Well, the last hand the guy was stupid, not a TAG.


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Old 05-06-2005, 11:27 PM #5 (permalink)  
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Well, the last hand the guy was stupid, not a TAG.
against a raise from SB you're way too tight if you're folding A7o. popular lines are check raise the flop and bet out the turn, and call the flop and check raising the turn. the problem is, hero is not folding no matter what. either way i think this was well played by both players. you shouldn't give up your blinds so easily.
 
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Old 05-07-2005, 12:35 AM #6 (permalink)  
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I have ran into some real odd aggression at pokernow's 0.5/1 (and I do mean odd, I sometime could call down raises with an A high and win) people seem to be bluffing more into by using extreme aggression against me, making me think that they are a lot stronger then they really are, for 0.5/1 I don't see this as a typical player, since my stats are showing them as a loose passive idiot, which makes me give them more credit some times (have even the fish gotten somewhat knowledgeable these days, or am I just running into a few odd ball ones...) either way I could see this type play at 3/6 bout 0.5/1 makes you wonder... I still get the idiots believe me if it weren’t for them my bank roll would be a lot higher (just can't seem to get shit to stick sometimes), I might not be able to get it to stick but hey when I get paid off I get paid off huge normally...

Anyways back to Taggs, I have run into a few of them that you just wonder what they were thinking betting that hard into another tagg… they have to know the tagg is probably going to call down in most situations or raise them with the best hand… You think that taggs pick up on other taggs tight play and try to bluff more against them?
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Old 05-07-2005, 08:59 AM #7 (permalink)  
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Anyways back to Taggs, I have run into a few of them that you just wonder what they were thinking betting that hard into another tagg… they have to know the tagg is probably going to call down in most situations or raise them with the best hand… You think that taggs pick up on other taggs tight play and try to bluff more against them?
I think a lot of the players you are talking about at that level are more Laggy than Taggy. The Tags you are running into that are playing like that are probably 4 tabling and don't have a clue how you are playing. You are paying attention to them but they aren't really aware of what you have been doing.
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Old 05-07-2005, 05:24 PM #8 (permalink)  
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 man that's some weird stuff fnord. maybe you are showing up on their PV screens as being tight enough to bluff out of a pot?

MP3 waking up on the river in hand 1 is hilarious.

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Old 05-07-2005, 07:45 PM #9 (permalink)  
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man that's some weird stuff fnord. maybe you are showing up on their PV screens as being tight enough to bluff out of a pot?
I'm realising this and have been calling down a bit more lately. The results have been very good.

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Preflop: Fnord is CO with A, 8.
5 folds, Fnord raises, 2 folds, BB 3-bets, Fnord calls.

Flop: (6.33 SB) 8, 6, 5 (2 players)
BB bets, Fnord raises, BB 3-bets, Fnord calls.

Turn: (6.16 BB) 3 (2 players)
BB checks, Fnord bets, BB calls.

River: (8.16 BB) 5 (2 players)
BB checks, Fnord checks.

Final Pot: 8.16 BB

Results in white below:
BB has Ad Kc (one pair, fives).
Fnord has As 8c (two pair, eights and fives).
Outcome: Fnord wins 8.16 BB.

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Preflop: Fnord is UTG with A, K.
Fnord raises, 2 folds, MP2 3-bets, 5 folds, Fnord calls.

Flop: (7.33 SB) 6, 7, 3 (2 players)
Fnord checks, MP2 bets, Fnord calls.

Turn: (4.66 BB) 8 (2 players)
Fnord checks, MP2 bets, Fnord calls.

River: (6.66 BB) Q (2 players)
Fnord checks, MP2 calls $5 (All-In), Fnord calls.

Final Pot: 8.33 BB

Results in white below:
Fnord has Ac Kh (high card, ace).
MP2 has 4s Js (high card, queen).
Outcome: Fnord wins 8.33 BB.
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Old 05-09-2005, 09:45 AM #10 (permalink)  
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I have the feeling I loose a lot of hands to mindless agression also.
But one can call every hand, right?
When I have something HU against that kind of players I try to call to the river, but with very mixed results!!!
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