www.flopturnriver.com

Poker Forum

Over 1,246,000 Posts!

Already Registered? Username: Password: Remember Forgot Password
Tweet

What software?

LinkBack

Thread Tools

Display Modes

Info

10-10-2007, 03:36 AM Post subject: What software?

#1 (permalink)

Join Date: Oct 2007

Location: WV

Posts: 9

What all do you reccomend to run while multitabling SSH full ring?

Play for FREE and practice your game at...

Join the FTR Poker Forum to disable these banners and start posting!

kmind

10-10-2007, 03:53 AM

#2 (permalink)

Straight Flush

Join Date: Oct 2006

Location: Not Giving In

Posts: 4,240

PokerAce HUD and Pokertracker.

Jibalob

10-10-2007, 08:08 AM

#3 (permalink)

Flush

Join Date: May 2007

Location: Out of my roll

Posts: 512

I would recommend PokerOffice over PokerTracker.

It's much easier to use and has its own table overlay of player statistics, it also shows your odds and outs (including pot odds) which comes in very handy when multitabling.

It's also usefull in mtts if you ever play them (I find PT pretty much useless for mtts).

The one thing I will say in favour of poker tracker is that it's better for reviewing your own stats.

PLEASE READ ULTIMATE BET THREAD IN "ONLINE POKER ROOMS" FORUM
Wait, this is .05/.10 and you got sexied, I can't believe that shit, limit must really be dying.[/quote]

bode

10-10-2007, 01:43 PM

#4 (permalink)

Straight Flush

Join Date: May 2006

Location: slow motion

Posts: 4,270

bode is an unknown quantity at this point

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jibalob

i used to be in this same mindset, but i quickly changed my mind. PT and PAHUD are much better and much less of a resource hog.

Quote:

eeevees are not monies yet...they are like baby monies.

snowboard_31

10-10-2007, 08:04 PM

#5 (permalink)

Straight

Join Date: Mar 2007

Posts: 206

So far Im just utilizing PokerTracker, with the external gametime window. The gametime window with PokerTracker is pretty damn annoying because you have to constantly update it and it doesnt overlay the stats on the table.

Ive never tried pokerOffice before but i find PokerTracker to be extremely usefull. Several searches of the forum will find threads that discuss ways to take full advantage of it.

1. Get a seat to their right
2. Steal blinds at will
3. ...
4. Profit
"It should be a crime to not bet if someone has checked to you twice."
-soupie
"If you can pinpoint a player's range, you can own his soul."
-Bond18

KoRnholio

10-10-2007, 08:12 PM

#6 (permalink)

4-of-a-Kind

Join Date: Jul 2005

Posts: 2,165

KoRnholio will become famous soon enough

Gametime+ is a pretty good free app for use with Pokertracker. The link is on the PT forums (I think it has it's own forum). Just set PT to automatically import hands ever x minutes, and the GT+ HUD will update itself while you play.

Some days it feels like I've been standing forever, waiting for the bank teller to return so I can cash in all these Sklansky Bucks.

Jibalob

10-10-2007, 09:07 PM

#7 (permalink)

Flush

Join Date: May 2007

Location: Out of my roll

Posts: 512

PokerOffice has a built-in live analysis window which you can set-up to show pretty much any stats you want and automatically detects where you are sat etc etc unlike Gametime+ so your stats are always in the right place.

I currently have

Nr of hands / VPIP / PFR / Post-flop AF / Fold BB to stal
C-bet / went to SD when saw flop / won at SD

above each player at the table then:

Pot odds
Odds and outs (ie, it will tell you that you have 4 outs for your gutshot draw at 10.5:1 and 9 outs for you flush draw at 4.1:1

Then there is also a seperate window for each table which you can use to check other stats such as starting hands that each player has shown down from each position, and loads of oher stuff that I dont really use unless I have a super-tough decision to make.

Bode: why did you change your mind? I've never used PAhud with PT but I did have GT+. I much prefer PO for ease of use and the large amount of features, it just winds me up that I cant filter stats the way I can in PT when reviewing my game for leaks.

PLEASE READ ULTIMATE BET THREAD IN "ONLINE POKER ROOMS" FORUM
Wait, this is .05/.10 and you got sexied, I can't believe that shit, limit must really be dying.[/quote]

Info

10-11-2007, 02:49 AM

#8 (permalink)

Join Date: Oct 2007

Location: WV

Posts: 9

thanks for the replies..

i used to be a low stakes grinder and had PT installed but never got to using it

feel very fishy for it now

How much can u pay attention to opponents stats when you're 4-6 tabling? Do you use them often or just play abc poker anyway?

DrivingDog

10-11-2007, 10:10 AM

#9 (permalink)

Full House

Join Date: Jul 2007

Location: UK

Posts: 923

I use PT and PokerAce with the standard metrics (VPIP etc.) plus the following displayed:

Cont bet turn, win when raise turn, fold to turn raise
WSD, Win @ SD, fold to river raise
...and a little icon that identifies each player based on VPIP, PFR, W$SD, and AF

Haven't tried PokerOffice so can't comment on it...but am pretty happy with what i have now.

When i'm playing multiple tables, i like to join the tables one at a time. I.e., join one table, play a couple hands, see the stats of my opponents, then join another, play a couple hands, see the stats, etc. till i'm at all the tables i want to be at. This gives me the chance to identify the types of players at each table and also any glaring weaknesses that may be present in one or more of the players at each table.

Generally i run fairly standard lines (but mix it up a bit just in case anyone is paying attention) until a difficult decision comes along. Then i look at the stats. Often the hard decision is what to do when facing a turn bet or raise, so having the WWRT stat is pretty useful. If it's <60%, he's doing a lot of bluffing and/or semi-bluffing/overplaying hands and I'll often 3bet a strong hand to charge him the max. If it's >80% I'm folding TPTK if i think there's any chance he's got a bigger hand.

Fold to turn raise is useful because it gives an idea of how bluffable your opponent is. If FTR is >40% I'll keep bluff-raising the turn until he catches on. Same for FRR, though it can be slightly lower for bluffing to be profitable.

Went to SD and Won$at SD are also quite useful in tandem. If they are going to SD more than 40% of the time and Winning SD less than 50%
they're pretty fishy.

Some people have pretty outrageous stats, like WSD 20%, W$SD 75% and AF 0.5. These people sit there calling down with TPTK or better and folding everything else, so you need to adjust for that.

A lot of the raise/fold turn/river stats don't become statistically reliable until quite a lot of hands have been played (about 500), which is why VPIP, PFR, and AF are the most useful stats.

Taking notes is still important because all the stats in the world won't tell you about the specific idiosyncratic oddball things your opponents might do that are exploitable, like capping the turn with a flush draw HU and leading out on the river when they miss.

"You can fool some of the people all of the time, and those are the ones you want to concentrate on." (George Bush).

Latest Poker News
KoRnholio	05-26-2012, 03:08 PM Australia Legalized Online Poker coming up in next 6 to 12 Months
According to an email sent out by Mark Bryan, a gaming analyst at Merrill Lynch, the Australian government plans to legalize online poker sometime in the next six to 12 months. This move will coincide ... more at Poker Blogs »

« Previous Thread | Next Thread »

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Switch to Hybrid Mode Switch to Threaded Mode

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts BB code is On Smilies are On [IMG] code is On HTML code is Off Trackbacks are On Pingbacks are On Refbacks are On Forum Rules

All times are GMT. The time now is 01:53 PM.

Play Texas Holdem Online, Online Texas Holdem Strategy, & Poker Forum

This is not a gambling website.

Poker Forum

Over 1,246,000 Posts!

Poker Forum

All Other (Limit) Poker

What software?

Play for FREE and practice your game at...