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Fnord
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02-18-2005, 10:40 PM
Post subject: What happens when I don't fold the flop like I should...
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Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (9 handed) converter
Preflop: Fnord is BB with 6 , A .
1 fold, UTG+1 calls, 1 fold, MP2 calls, 3 folds, SB completes, Fnord checks.
Flop: (4 SB) 3 , 8, 6 (4 players)
SB bets, Fnord raises, UTG+1 calls, MP2 folds, SB 3-bets, Fnord calls, UTG+1 caps, SB calls, Fnord calls.
Turn: (8 BB) A (3 players)
SB checks, Fnord checks, UTG+1 bets, SB calls, Fnord raises, UTG+1 calls, SB folds.
River: (13 BB) T (2 players)
Fnord bets, UTG+1 calls.
Final Pot: 15 BB
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HeavyP
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What? Wierd hand, especially the way that flop was played.. I can't imaging calling a capped pot with MPTK. with 2 to the flush on the board. But that's just me, and I'm not Fnord. 
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Fnord
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Raising was my second best/worst play on the flop, after that I'm pretty much committed to see the turn.
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HeavyP
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Oh I don't blame you, The hand is just played out wierd. I mean, there was 33$ in that pot for you to call 3$, but then UTG+1 caps it.  I guess I didn't really evaluate the hand all tlhe way through before making a comment.
I'm a lil surprised by the river bet, wouldn't check/call be better here since the only hands that can raise you have you killed? I think there was a thread about this that I should re-read.
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Fnord
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Originally Posted by HeavyP
I'm a lil surprised by the river bet, wouldn't check/call be better here since the only hands that can raise you have you killed? I think there was a thread about this that I should re-read.
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Clarkmeister's Theorm
A bet is always correct here.
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HeavyP
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Can you post a link to it or do I have to dig through all the 2+2 posts.
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Fnord
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In brief, if you're first to act heads-up to to the river and the fourth flush card hits it's always correct to bet.
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HeavyP
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Simple enough, I've looked up some of his posts on twoplustwo anyways.
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Fnord
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UTG+1 had 8 3 and MHIG!
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ChezJ
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i can understand raising 2nd pr on the flop in a large, raised pot, but taking all that risk in EP to win only 5 SB? what am i missing...?
ChezJ
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