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Surf_Thug

09-02-2005, 06:05 PM Post subject: What is a good players hourly rate at PP .50 & 1.00 Limi

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I'm talking about someone playing 4 tables at a time?

What is the rate per table?

I've been playing a little limit latley, I suck at it, but I want to give it a try..

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09-02-2005, 09:04 PM

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09-02-2005, 09:59 PM

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Sorry I thought it was pretty obvious on these boards that PP is party poker.

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09-02-2005, 10:32 PM

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This is a silly question.

I'll let other elaborate.

Do you see why?

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09-02-2005, 11:04 PM

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09-03-2005, 03:59 AM

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some people can't make $10 a day at .50-1, some can make $100

do you see why?

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09-03-2005, 08:17 AM

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09-03-2005, 04:44 PM

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Once i made 50$ in 2 hours
Once i lost 35$ in 1 hour.

Do you see why?

Surf_Thug

09-03-2005, 07:47 PM

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No I guess I don't see why.

I could give an aproximate hourly rate for my no-limit grinding and the variance there should be much greater.

In fact on the 2+2 boards they have all kinds of expected hourly rates calculated for various games.

With programs such as Poker Tracker or even just simple note taking i'm sure an aproximate rate could be figured. I guess aproximating a figure to give someone a target to shoot for is less fun then flaming posters..

and yes I see why....

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09-03-2005, 07:56 PM

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It depends on your definition of a "good player", but you should be able to make 2+ BB/hr per table at .5/1 limit on Party Poker, so I guess if you are 4 tabling and really are a good player, you could potentially make $8+/hour. Though if you are good enough to be making that kind of profit at .5/1, there is absolutely no reason not to just bonus whore for a little bit and work your bankroll up to where you can safely play higher limits. It really doesn't do much good to wonder how much you "could" make if you were "good" though, it only matters how much you are actually making for how good you are. A lot of people consider themselves good while playing .5/1 and have made like $50 over their last 200 hours of play while somebody else who really is bad has made $200 over their last 10 hours of play, so really anybody could pull any random answer out of their ass to answer your question.

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09-03-2005, 08:25 PM

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What the others are saying is entirely true.

That said, I consider myself an above average player, and I just recently mvoed from .5/1 to 1/2, and I averaged about $6-$7 an hour at .5/1.

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09-03-2005, 09:16 PM

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3 BB/100 is beating the game, 4 tabling could get you 200 hands/hour so 6 bb/100 is pretty good. This is at any limit.

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09-03-2005, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Surf_Thug

In fact on the 2+2 boards they have all kinds of expected hourly rates calculated for various games.

These calculations have lots of pretty bad flaws.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBvge-c2_Xg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-Xz8aLuD7Y

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09-03-2005, 09:17 PM

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3 BB/100 is beating the game, 4 tabling could get you 200 hands/hour so 6 bb/100 is pretty good. This is at any limit.

1BB/100 is beating the game
2+BB/100 is crushing the game
3+BB/100 is destroying the game
I've seen good arguments that much more than 4BB/100 is unsustainable. However, if you only play really really good seats/tables at limits where the rake isn't oppressive...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBvge-c2_Xg
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09-03-2005, 11:27 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Fnord

Quote:

Originally Posted by Surf_Thug

In fact on the 2+2 boards they have all kinds of expected hourly rates calculated for various games.

These calculations have lots of pretty bad flaws.

yup

take your ego out of the equation and judge the situation dispassionately

Surf_Thug

09-04-2005, 01:08 AM

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Thank you for the replies, those figures are what I was looking for.

I didn't want an exact figure, I just wanted to know aproximately what kind of profit solid play can produce.

Just so I have some kind of a bench mark to shoot for.

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Current Bankroll: $625

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09-04-2005, 02:13 AM

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"long term" can be a brutal thing in limit. Over 4k hands (27 times) my KK is -.05bb/100, does this mean KK is a losing hand, obviously no.

that just gives you an idea of what variance is... it sure as hell has been bitch slapping me around.

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09-04-2005, 04:40 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Surf_Thug

Sorry I thought it was pretty obvious on these boards that PP is party poker.

jeez...it's not like no one here has ever heard of party poker before. It's just that there's at least 3 different sites that have two P's, like pokerfanatic pointed out.

Remember that party's rake at .5/1 and 1/2 is an awful 10% so BB/100 expectations should be lower. But it's my understanding that the players there are even more awful.

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09-04-2005, 09:10 AM

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Anyways now we're at it what's your guys winrate at 2/4$ I've just had a 10K hand breakeven stretch and that leaves me at 1,75bb/100
which I'm not all to gald for. I really want to be above 2/100.

Anyone sustaining above 3/100 for more than 30K hands..?

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09-04-2005, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by StinkyBeaver

I really wouldn't be upset at all by making 1.75 BB/100. I play 3/6 instead of 2/4, but usually get in 30-35k hands per month. In June, I made 3.19 BB/100 over 32,000 hands, but every other month since February when I started 3/6, I've made somewhere between 1.65-2.35 BB/100. The 2 BB/100 marker a lot of people say is possible is in fact a pretty tough goal to aim for. Then if you are going to try and have that win rate for every stretch of 10,000 hands, it'd be impossible

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09-04-2005, 03:42 PM

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Well that nice to hear anyways I ran pretty good to ebgin with adn avereaged an 2,5/100BB on my first 10K now at 30K variance is killing me. I guess anything above 1,5/100BB is ok since I play 7 tables.

I just cheked my stats and I might be spewing in BB with a 0,25BB loss/hand and a folded to steal of only 56%. could be nothing but I think I'll try and tighten up a bit.

Hows 3/6 compared with 2/4 way more aggressive or not that bad. I've stayed away simply b/c of the 3/6 6max games and figured they made the full gmaes to hard to beat for a solid rate.

09-04-2005, 05:44 PM

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.5/1 can be beaten for 4 BB/100.

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