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LawDude
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11-06-2009, 08:32 PM
Post subject: what do i do now?
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Full House
Join Date: Feb 2009
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Yuck. Both these guys were new at the table.
PokerStars Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (10 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q , Q
2 folds, UTG+2 calls, 1 fold, Hero raises, 3 folds, SB calls, BB calls, UTG+2 calls
Flop: (8 SB) K , 9, 4 (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG+2 bets, Hero calls, 1 fold, BB calls
Turn: (5.5 BB) 8 (3 players)
BB checks, UTG+2 bets, Hero calls, BB raises, UTG+2 calls, [color=#666666]
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ponyboy
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Flush
Join Date: Jan 2005
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IMO you should have raised that flop bet.
As played fold.
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LawDude
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Full House
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by ponyboy
IMO you should have raised that flop bet.
As played fold.
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The flop bet, in my opinion, is a very close call between raise and call, because of all the people in the hand. The assumption of a raise on that flop is that the donker has a range that includes the king and draws, whereas the other players will fold out. But that's not usually true in this sort of multi-way pot-- the donker's range certainly includes the king and draws, but the other players may have been planning to check-raise or check-call with a king. The truth is that we are good less often than we'd like here.
I prefer the isolation/value-raise with an underpair much more when the pot was unraised pre-flop or where I am heads-up, because in that situation, I am not as worried / not worried about a check-raise or check-call with a hand that beats me.
I did fold the turn, and of course, the donker had Q9 and the caller had QJ.
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Chopper
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Straight Flush
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: St. Louis, MO
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i dont mind a call on the flop ONLY because the board is so dry. but, on the turn, we are caught between the best hand and another hand that beats us, imo. i bet we have two K's in here at least, and BB just hit his gin card. time to fold before we tie ourselves to the pot.
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LHE is a game where your skill keeps you breakeven until you hit your rush of random BS.
Nothing beats flopping quads while dropping a duece!
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LawDude
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Full House
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by Chopper
i dont mind a call on the flop ONLY because the board is so dry. but, on the turn, we are caught between the best hand and another hand that beats us, imo. i bet we have two K's in here at least, and BB just hit his gin card. time to fold before we tie ourselves to the pot.
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We're basically in the same place with this hand. It's a yucky fold, and it turned out (results-oriented) to be a fold of the best hand, but 99.99 percent of the time, we're not good here.
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Muzzard
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4-of-a-Kind
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Location: Cheshire, UK
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cool story bro
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RockyMoose
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Straight
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Muzzard's spam on every thread should be annoying, but I like his avatar.
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