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m3laNcholy
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04-20-2005, 08:42 AM
Post subject: What about this river raise?
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Straight
Join Date: Feb 2005
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What do you think of this hand?
After him capping the flop I considered going into call down mode (was a little frustrated that he might have hit 2 x jack on the flop). But he took too long to think before betting the river so I put that raise in.
Do you think that was played well? What do you put him on? (no reads here 2nd or 3rd orbit).Any feedback apreciated.
Preflop: Hero is Button with A , A .
2 folds, MP1 raises, MP2 calls, 1 fold, CO 3-bets, Hero caps, SB calls, 1 fold, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, CO calls.
Flop: (21 SB) J, 8 , J (5 players)
SB checks, MP1 bets, MP2 calls, CO raises, Hero 3-bets, SB calls, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, CO caps, Hero calls, SB calls.
Turn: (17.50 BB) 5 (3 players)
SB checks, CO bets, Hero calls, SB folds.
River: (19.50 BB) 2 (2 players)
CO bets, Hero raises, CO calls.
Final Pot: 23.50 BB
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Fnord
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He has KK/QQ, nice river raise.
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m3laNcholy
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Straight
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How about the turn? Should I have raised? But I raise him preflop, on the flop, and he still caps the flop and leads the turn. Of course he leads the river cause I just called the turn. Only reason I raise was that awful long time it took him to bet the river. Think he was a bit on tilt and finally realised he was probably beat finally deciding to bet just in case I had AK or sth.
You were really close Fnord, he had TT.
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honsheung
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Straight
Join Date: Apr 2005
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J, 8, J
He may has a J indeed in a 9 handed table.
i won't even consider bet or raise in river.
OF course, I am wrong in this case.
But I belieive I may not be long if there are many similar cases like this.
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honsheung
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Straight
Join Date: Apr 2005
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He may as Aj , Kj, 88 , jj , many possibilites,
this make me don't even consider bet or rasie in turn and river.
But of course. i will call down to river with AA
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Demiparadigm
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4-of-a-Kind
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It would be tricky indeed to cap the flop with JJ. No one would ever put you on flopped quads. 
I gotta go with Fnord on this one. KK or QQ is most likely. This is kind of crazy aggressive for TT, and a Jack will normally wait for the turn to raise.
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Trikflow77
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Full House
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He doesnt have a jack or a boat, he would have reraised the river. I like the river raise.
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ChezJ
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of course when a similar thing happened to me, the guy who capped the flop had 88 (an overpair) and hit his set on the TURN. wtf?!
another time, i capped heads up vs a maniac and he cracked my AA with 55 by flopping quads which of course i gave him no credit for whatsoever.
ChezJ
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Fnord
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Not a lot of Jx hands play like that pre-flop. Even if he had something like AJs/KJs/JJ, he'll often try to get cute on the flop.
SB is much more likely to have the Jack given the action. Once he folds it's a pretty high value river raise.
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