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KoRnholio
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10-21-2007, 12:02 AM
Post subject: Wetting my feet in limit again - line with big draw
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4-of-a-Kind
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Reads:
BB 29/12/1.56, likes to pop it up in multiway limped pots from the blinds
MP 13/5 - seemed fairly passive postflop
CO 41/19/1.44 - pretty much a donkey, not sure how aggro he is postflop though
On the flop I just call so that the BB doesn't 3bet to knock people out.
Plan was to call here to induce overcalls and then bet out a river heart, or check-raise a straight. I figure just calling 3 bets cold turns my flush draw face up anyways, so I should bet to collect a bet or two on the end if it his. Although the CO might bet (and surely call) if I check a flush...
Cryptologic 2.00/4.00 Hold'em (9 handed) link
Preflop: Hero is SB with 7 , 6 .
2 folds, MP1 calls, 2 folds, CO calls, 1 folds, Hero completes, BB raises, MP1 calls, CO calls, Hero calls.
Flop: (8.00 SB) 4 , 5 , A (4 players)
Hero checks, BB bets, MP1 calls, CO calls, Hero calls.
Turn: (6.00 BB) 9 (4 players)
Hero checks, BB bets, MP1 raises, CO 3-bets, Hero calls...
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Hermann the Lombard
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Let's see...assuming that one of them will cap it you're getting about 7:1. I would put one on a set, one on two pair, and one on a better flush draw than yours. That would leave 6 outs for a straight without a flush. Maybe give yourself 4 outs for a flush that might be good but might lose to a higher flush or to a redraw full house. I would call but not optimistically.
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Oh, no! Not another learning experience!
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bigspenda73
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Meh I'd love the Ah to be on the board
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DrivingDog
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Pretty unlikely anyone has a FD here. BB raised preflop and bet flop and turn = big Ace. Might be a suited Ace, and if it is might be hearts, but that's a lot of might bes. MP raises turn with FD with two players to act behind him? Who does that? CO 3bets with FD? nfw.
Ah or 5h pairs the board and i'd deduct one out for both combined. That leaves 14 outs to the best hand imo. Easy call on turn. B/c any heart on river and c/r any non-heart straight card. Yippee!
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euphoricism
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Wow, what a shitty spot. I probably fold because calling 3 cold sucks, and you could easily be drawing to half the hearts you think you are.
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KoRnholio
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I'm not too worried about any of these guys (other than the BB) having Ahxh here. I think BB was aggressive enough to fire with any ace here again.
I figured MP's most likely hand was a set. CO could have a lot, but I was thinking 2 pair or but even 32 is possible for this guy...
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euphoricism
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4-of-a-Kind
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Yeah, I fold. Sets kill a lot of your heart outs, overflushes suck, calling 3 cold always sucks...
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DrivingDog
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by euphoricism
Yeah, I fold. Sets kill a lot of your heart outs, overflushes suck, calling 3 cold always sucks...
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Sets only eliminate two of your heart outs and none of your straight outs, but overflushes do suck and so does calling 3 cold. Wouldn't expect an overflush here, however, so i still think it's worth a peek.
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KoRnholio
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Calling 3 cold does suck big monkey balls, but after hitting a near gin turn card there was no way I was folding here, especially when hitting an offsuit 8 or 3 will likely win me 2-3 more bets.
Results below:
I call, BB folds, MP calls (A4/A5/A9/44/Ahxh is his range I would assume).
River is the 2 of hearts. I bet out, both call me and they both have A9.
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Some days it feels like I've been standing forever, waiting for the bank teller to return so I can cash in all these Sklansky Bucks.
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