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Old 01-14-2008, 03:03 AM     Post subject: Wes's Newb LHE Adventures #1 (permalink)  
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OK, i suck hard at limit holdem and need to get better as fast as possible (not that i'm in a huge rush but better now than later).
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Old 01-14-2008, 03:07 AM #2 (permalink)  
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Old 01-14-2008, 03:20 AM     Post subject: Small flush.. #3 (permalink)  
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This was my first ever LHE cash game. I have only played it in freerolls and in some HORSE cash games. (where i just sit very tight and make up any loses [most of the time] in Razz, Stud and Stud 8).
I finished down about $1 or $2.

No real reads to go on other than they all chase and chase hard all the way to the river.

PokerStars 0.10/0.20 Hold'em (4 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with , .
Hero calls, Button calls, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (4 SB) , , (4 players)
SB bets, BB calls, Hero calls, Button calls.

Turn: (4 BB) (4 players)
SB bets, BB calls, Hero calls, Button calls.

River: (8 BB) (4 players)
SB bets, BB folds, Hero calls, Button raises, SB calls $0.01 (All-In), Hero calls.

Final Pot: 13.05 BB

Results in white below:
SB has Jc 9c (two pair, jacks and fives).
Hero has 3h 2h (flush, jack high).
Button has Qs 5s (three of a kind, fives).
Outcome: Hero wins 13.05 BB.

I realize i have a huge hand (a flush) but with cards to come do i want to be raising here?? Anyone could be sitting on any heart and then i lose more if i am raising.
Keep in mind that if it's any other hearts in my hand i don't play it this weak, but at least this way (just calling) if a heart comes i only lose the minimum.
 
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Old 01-14-2008, 03:23 AM #4 (permalink)  
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 wes, you should pick one format and stick with it for a couple months, or a couple 5k hands. You make fundamental errors and don't know how to think about the game. Sure there are concepts that carry themselves across games but you're not going to learn them by bouncing around.

Just ask spenda, what an idiot. He bounces around games and look where that leaves him. Posting in the commune because he's embarrassed to have 4k posts without being a real poker player.
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 That 32s hand you just posted is pretty much a side show mutant cow fetus (inside joke for Firefly fans). But if you only lost 5 or 10 bets that session, that just means there is a lot of room for improvement

FWIW in that hand, I fold preflop, raise flop, raise turn!! (bolded for effect), bet-call river. Flopping a flush in limit is golden until a 4th suit comes off. People will never fold a decent one card flush draw, so make them pay harshly to get there.
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Old 01-14-2008, 04:20 AM     Post subject: Swiggidy #6 (permalink)  
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wes, you should pick one format and stick with it for a couple months, or a couple 5k hands.
This is great advice.

I will make a serious attempt to narrow it down to one or two.

I actually do play stud 8 about 90% of the time, but i enjoy playing all the games.
 
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Old 01-15-2008, 10:53 PM #7 (permalink)  

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Hi,

Im new at this forum , also just startet out with LHE...

U have a monster, so you need the ones with a single ace to pay hard for their draws.

If anyone is holding a single heart, then they have 7 outs to their flush and will win around 30% of the times the hand is played to the end.

But I think u also have to consider which hearts will play the hand to the end, maybe only Q-K-A? Thats just 3 cards that can beat u then, if we assume that noone will hit a fullhouse.
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Old 01-16-2008, 12:19 AM #8 (permalink)  
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1) have enough in your stack so you're never all-in on any given hand - what happens if you hit the nuts and run out of money to bet? Also it makes you look like a fish, and that's not a good table image to have at any level. (EDIT: Nevermind, i misread the HH.)

2) fold 32s UTG - or anywhere outside the blinds for that matter.

3) raise the flop - if you get one person holding a 4h or better to fold it improves your equity dramatically. True you won't get someone with the Ah or probably Kh to fold no matter what but you can still charge them to draw as well as charge the people who are drawing dead against you.

4) if someone leads into you, raise the turn for the same reasons as 3 above. if you're 3bet shut down and hope you're not crushed.
"You can fool some of the people all of the time, and those are the ones you want to concentrate on." (George Bush).
 
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