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Old 06-26-2008, 12:09 PM     Post subject: weird KK hand #1 (permalink)  
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This hand really confused me. I'd like to hear what others think.

Btn is solid, unimaginative 20/15/ 1.5.

SB is 26/18/4, solid preflop, very laggy postflop. Raises overcards in raised pots, raises draws multiway on the turn regardless of board, etc.

Btn's 3betting range vs. my HJ raise of limpy is probably fairly tight, maybe AJ, ATs, 88+

SB's capping range is even tighter, maybe AQ, AJs, TT+

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Preflop: Hero is MP with K, K.
UTG calls, Hero raises, 1 fold, Button 3-bets, SB caps, 1 fold, UTG calls, Hero calls, Button calls.

Flop: (17 SB) 2, Q, J (4 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks, Button bets, SB raises, UTG folds, Hero calls, Button calls.

Turn: (11.50 BB) 4 (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, Button bets, SB raises, Hero calls, Button calls.

River: (17.50 BB) 6 (3 players)
SB checks, Hero ?

Final Pot: 17.50 BB

On the flop, the idea is to wait and see what SB does if/when btn bets. I expect btn to bet anything here.

If SB just calls, I'm going to raise. But really I expect him to raise with his entire range, and I'm planning on playing this hand WA/WB.

On the turn, SB checks. Now I'm thinking I have him beat, but not so sure about Btn. If he's sandbagging AA, QQ, JJ I don't really want to bet and get raised with two outs. If he has AQ/AJ he'll probably put SB on a draw and bet again anyway.

He bets and SB c/r's the field again. He is aggro enough to do this with a FD, and in fact this seems more likely to me than a good made hand, which I assume he would lead out with. I don't think my calling two cold on the flop means much to him because he is fairly oblivious to what others are doing - unless you really hit him over the head he is just going to keep betting and raising.

Q1) Given my read on the opponents, can I 3bet this turn? I think SB will only cap something like AdKd. Btn will surely cap QQ/JJ and might just call with AA.

Anyways I decide to cold call and see what Btn does. Btn just calls so I think we can remove QQ/JJ from his range.

On the river, the FD completes and SB checks. This really confuses me. Is he just hoping to do a 'brilliant' c/r on the river with a flush? It's really hard to put him on any other hand.

What about Btn? Is he going to bet AQ/AJ again once the draw completes and I have played my hand so much like a draw? He's probably not folding either at this point, but he does have to worry about lagboy behind him.

Q2) Do I lead out here? Bet and call a raise from lagboy?
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