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Phyl
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06-11-2005, 09:16 AM
Post subject: Weak?
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Flush
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MP3 is 40/4 over 50 hands - he sucks bad but no real read on his play. Button is loose and semi-aggressive and the blinds are both tighish passive.
Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (10 handed) converter
Preflop: Hero is CO with 4 , A .
5 folds, MP3 calls, Hero raises, 3 folds, MP3 calls.
Flop: (5.40 SB) J , 2, 7 (2 players)
MP3 bets, Hero folds.
Final Pot: 3.20 BB
Is this flop fold ok? It seems really weak and I'm worried people will start taking shots at me if I keep making these folds.
Also, anyone dislike the preflop raise?
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Fnord
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After watching him play that many hands, no read?!?!?
I would fold pre-flop because if the Button joins the party your hand turns into toilet paper.
Generally the weak lead says "I got a piece". Given the situation, I think a fold is fine.
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Phyl
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Flush
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Originally Posted by Fnord
After watching him play that many hands, no read?!?!?
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Big hole in my game - I'm fucking lazy and I have a tiny attention span. I only actually take notes if someone does something really dodgy like check/raise bluff the turn on a broadway board vs. PFR. I need to work on that.
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I would fold pre-flop because if the Button joins the party your hand turns into toilet paper.
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That's true, I just got excited at the idea of getting a loose passive MP3-open-limping donk heads-up with an Ace in position. What's the lowest offsuit Ace you'll raise here?
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Generally the weak lead says "I got a piece". Given the situation, I think a fold is fine.
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Ok, I might just be getting paranoid because this situation is coming up more often than I'd like.
If I changed A4 to A8 does your decision change?
Would you raise (A4) against an aggressive player?
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Fnord
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Loose players are easier to get reads on because they play so many hands. Another advantage of playing tight...
Per what I would raise there, certainly A8o and A4s. After that it gets hazy. Although I REALLY REALLY HATE having a LAggy player with immediate position on me. So much so, I will uncheck "auto-post blinds", camp premium hands, then leave when my blinds come up.
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Xanadu
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Full House
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I think the raise sux too. I think you and Fnord are right ... gotta have at least A8. A4 is so easily dominated, you need some really, really special circumstances to play it at all. Like 5 limpers in the SB. My general rule is only to play A9o or better unless its a blind steal opp. if I'm trying to steal blinds in MP I want at least A8. Also, I typically only play A9 on the Button or CO.
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Phyl
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Flush
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Originally Posted by Fnord
Per what I would raise there, certainly A8o and A4s. After that it gets hazy.
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Sorry I didn't make it very clear, I was referring to the flop. If I had A8 instead would your flop decision change?
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