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Old 02-22-2007, 06:03 PM     Post subject: Want opinions on PLO hand #1 (permalink)  

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OK, it is late in a 9-hand SNG. Hold'em Harry is maniacal, imo, for PLO, raising preflop a lot, especially since 3-handed, adopting every orphan pot possible. I am shortstacked, but in money so it is OK.

By the way, I don't think this is a great starting hand except that we are down to 3-handed. I do think it hit pretty nicely though!

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Seat 4: Semi-intelligent villian (5670 in chips)
Seat 5: Hero (2240 in chips)
Seat 9: Hold'em Harry (5590 in chips)

Hold'em Harry: posts small blind 75
Semi-intelligent villian: posts big blind 150

*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [6s Ac Ad 4h]
Hero: calls 150
Hold'em Harry: calls 75
Semi-intelligent villian: checks
*** FLOP *** [As Tc Th]
Hold'em Harry: bets 150
Semi-intelligent villian: folds
Hero: calls 150
*** TURN *** [As Tc Th] [Jh]
Hold'em Harry: bets 150
Hero: raises 300 to 450
Hold'em Harry: calls 300
*** RIVER *** [As Tc Th Jh] [Td]
Hold'em Harry: bets 1500
Hero: calls 1490 and is all-in
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Hold'em Harry: shows [Ts Kd Jd Kc] (four of a kind, Tens)
Hero: shows [6s Ac Ad 4h] (a full house, Aces full of Tens)
Hold'em Harry collected 4630 from pot

Here is the question, I do not believe in slowplaying much, especially in Omaha. But when you have something so strong you are just praying someone has something good enough to give action to you, then slow play a little. I did not make him pay much to draw, the turn bet was intended to allow me to go all-in on the river. So, raise preflop? ( I NEVER raise preflop) Bet pot on turn?

Would anyone fold the river?
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Old 02-22-2007, 07:56 PM #2 (permalink)  
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 What do you beat on the river?
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Old 02-22-2007, 08:23 PM #3 (permalink)  
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 I'd raise a bit more on the turn. You're only raising 300 and giving the villain 4.5:1 odds. If he has a ten, JJ, KQ or even a flush draw he will probably call 500-600 here. If he has air it won't matter what amount we bet.

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What do you beat on the river?
Everything but Txxx The villain could have something like JJxx, KQQx (for the straight on the turn, boat on the river), or even a bluff if he thinks you had a straight and/or flush draw on the turn.
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Old 02-22-2007, 08:39 PM #4 (permalink)  
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 Unless villian is poor he is grossly overvaluing his hand here OOP if he doesn't hold Txxx
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Old 02-25-2007, 10:30 AM #5 (permalink)  
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River is interesting. Given what you know, this hand is fine.
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Old 03-08-2007, 04:46 AM #6 (permalink)  
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Old 03-08-2007, 08:29 AM #7 (permalink)  
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Old 03-09-2007, 07:08 PM     Post subject: OK #8 (permalink)  

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BigSpenda, from both of your comments, I can't tell what your opinion is!

You said he was overvalueing his hand if NOT Txxx? I guess I am thinking he overvalued Txxx.

Khornholio, thanks, you kind of addressed what I was trying to ask, which is where do I draw that fine line between letting him catch up enough to keep staying in the hand, vs. extracting value with what was ALMOST the nuts.

BTW, I can't find the article now but I called him Hold'em Harry after an example I read about avoiding hold'em thinking in Omaha. No offense to the REAL Hold'em Harry, LOL.
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Old 03-09-2007, 07:29 PM #9 (permalink)  
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 OK, I just think your hand is face up on the turn and when he shoves the river he is expecting to get called. Like I said, if he didn't have Txxx on this river I don't think he could push. Im ruling out KKxx so JJ is the only other hand he could have. So its a tough call/fold.
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