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Old 08-10-2005, 06:23 PM     Post subject: Is villain just stupid or an aware tricky player, B&M st #1 (permalink)  
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Following hands happened in B&M yesterday. ONLY AFTER I WAS RETURNING HOME from the casino did I realise that I had played villain's husband before (who was at this same table too) . I remember villain's husband only from the fact that he stole 2 pots from me in 1 session when he check raised me on river with crappy hands and I layed my better hands down while showing (I was a NOOB then and since then dont do this any more. I found those hands too Hand #3 and #5

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Hand 1:
Hero is MP1 with Ac-Qd (suit not important), Villain is BB

Preflop: UTG+1 calls, Hero raises, MP1 calls,MP2 calls, CO calls, SB 3 bets, Villain calls, UTG+1 calls, Hero caps, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, CO calls, SB calls, Villain calls, UTG+1 calls

Flop: Ad-10d-2h
Preflop: SB bets (all-in), Villain calls, UTG+1 calls,Hero raises, MP1 folds,MP2 calls, CO calls, Villain calls, UTG+1 folds.

Flop: Ad-10d-2h-4s
Preflop: Villain checks, Hero bets,MP2 folds, CO folds, Villain calls

Flop: Ad-10d-2h-4s-4c
Villain bets , Hero calls

Villain shows A-3. Hero wins big pot
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Hand 2:
Hero is MP2 with Jc-Js , Villain is UTG now.

Preflop: Villain raises, Hero 3 bets, MP2 calls, button caps, Villain calls, Hero calls, MP2 calls

Flop: 10h-10d-7h
Preflop: Villain checks, Hero bets, MP2 calls, Button calls

Flop: 10h-10d-7h-5h
Preflop: Villain bets, Hero calls, MP2 calls, Button calls

Flop: 10h-10d-7h-5h-3d
Villain bets, Hero calls, MP2 folds, Button folds

Villain shows A-2o raising UTG with A-2 o . Hero wins big pot
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They way those hands played was villain trying to push me off the pot or just thought had the best hand ?? or did villains husband told villain that I could be pushed off a pot easily. ?
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Old 08-10-2005, 06:25 PM #2 (permalink)  
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sorry I removed the link for previous hands # 3 and #5 with villains husband. why dig up old wounds
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Old 08-10-2005, 06:34 PM #3 (permalink)  
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If 2 aware players on the same bankroll are playing at the table, I'm re-evaluating if I should be there and/or should talk to the floor about someone (perhaps me) being at a different table. Although this guy seems to be a gold-mine.

In hand 2 I'm raising the Turn with the information gained in hand 1 (likes to donk-bet.) Pot is too big and you're too likely to have the best hand to pass up a chance to raise to isolate.
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Old 08-11-2005, 01:34 AM #4 (permalink)  
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I once sat down together with a husband + wife sitting next to each other in a 1/2 NL b&m game. I had no problem with it as they were playing it straight up. There wasn't even a hint of collusion esp when they started going against each other with legit hands. He busted her out... she held the car keys.
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Old 08-11-2005, 07:10 PM #5 (permalink)  
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 assuming this is a low limit table, i would tend to believe that both husband and wife are typical B&M dumbasses, and would not take their bad plays personally. why give them credit for being clever enough to collude when plain old stupidity perfectly explains their behavior?

anyone who thinks you can bluff someone with a hand into folding on the river in limit holdem is clearly a fool.

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