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acezrez
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05-16-2006, 11:21 PM
Post subject: very confusing AKo
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Join Date: May 2006
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I put him on Ax....
Ultimate Bet 0.25/0.50 Hold'em (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
Preflop: Hero is CO with K , A .
3 folds, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, Hero raises, 3 folds, MP2 calls, MP3 folds.
Flop: (6.40 SB) 3, A , K (2 players)
MP2 bets, Hero calls.
Turn: (4.20 BB) 9 (2 players)
MP2 bets, Hero raises, MP2 calls.
River: (8.20 BB) 5 (2 players)
MP2 bets, Hero raises, MP2 3-bets, Hero caps, MP2 calls.
Final Pot: 16.20 BB
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thenonsequitur
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05-17-2006, 04:41 AM
Post subject: Re: very confusing AKo
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I kind of like waiting until the turn to wake up, because it's a very safe board, so there are no draws that will call or re-raise to pay you off if you did raise, and calling also gives Ax the best chance to lose a lot of money. And until the river when he donks you, you have every reason to believe you have the best hand. When he donks the river that's a little suspect, but given the line you took he might do this with a lower two-pair or even just a pair of aces, so i like the river raise. When he 3-bets you that has to cast serious doubt in your mind about your hand (unless you have reads telling you otherwise), and I would probably just call the 3-bet.
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acezrez
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Join Date: May 2006
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Yea... I can how the river cap was a mistake... I went on a phil like rampage after I saw what he had. Usually handle my beats pretty well but this guy was just a plain donk...
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TylerK
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Based on the betting, I would think he paired his kicker on the river more often than he had a set or somehow managed to have 42.
I rarely get to say that you should make a "crying cap," but I think this is one of those times.
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TylerK: its just gambling if i want to worry about money i'll go to work lol
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KoRnholio
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I'd cap this river at this level or against donks. If he had a set by the turn he'd probably pop it again there.
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elipsesjeff
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rofl, i've played a gutshot this way...
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euphoricism
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I've donked flops holding gutshot draws. Plenty of times. Especially if I have some folding equity with it.
I dont tend to like to lead the turn, so I usually give up there when I brick. But he bet it, ok, he's semi-bluffing thin. Really thin. He's a bad player. Anyway, you raised. Well, now he's got beautiful implied odds -- even though he probably doesn't know it. He stumbles blindly into a good call. He spikes the river, and his implied odds are, as expected, massive.
Not saying he's a good player, in fact I doubt he's a good player, but his play ain't too bad. Thats how poker works 
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euphoricism
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He could definitely play it that way if he holds something like 24s in hearts.
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elipsesjeff
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by euphoricism
He could definitely play it that way if he holds something like 24s in hearts.
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yup
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KoRnholio
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42s and other gutshots are possible.. But at this level I'd bet that it's more likely a worse 2 pair.
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acezrez
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Join Date: May 2006
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How should I have played it then.... on the turn.... I dont see how he could bet out at the flop with 2/4 then again on the turn......this guy was a horrible player by the way..........i thought i did everything i could to push him besides not raising the flop
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Originally Posted by euphoricism
I've donked flops holding gutshot draws. Plenty of times. Especially if I have some folding equity with it.
I dont tend to like to lead the turn, so I usually give up there when I brick. But he bet it, ok, he's semi-bluffing thin. Really thin. He's a bad player. Anyway, you raised. Well, now he's got beautiful implied odds -- even though he probably doesn't know it. He stumbles blindly into a good call. He spikes the river, and his implied odds are, as expected, massive.
Not saying he's a good player, in fact I doubt he's a good player, but his play ain't too bad. Thats how poker works |
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