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Old 10-11-2006, 01:18 PM     Post subject: Unexpected river raise. #1 (permalink)  
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Opponent unknown. 3-bet or just call?

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Preflop: Hero is BB with 9, 9.
3 folds, Button raises, 1 fold, Hero 3-bets, Button calls.

Flop: (6.40 SB) A, 9, 3 (2 players)
Hero bets, Button calls.

Turn: (4.20 BB) J (2 players)
Hero bets, Button raises, Hero 3-bets, Button calls.

River: (10.20 BB) 7 (2 players)
Hero bets, Button raises, Hero ???
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Old 10-11-2006, 01:22 PM #2 (permalink)  
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Call, unfortunately. His turn raise could well have been a semibluff with KQs.


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Old 10-11-2006, 03:25 PM #3 (permalink)  
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I am interested in whether its better to C/R the flop this hand, vs. betting out? Did you think of slowplaying your set at all, even w/a flush draw on the board?
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Old 10-11-2006, 04:17 PM #4 (permalink)  
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regardin a checkraise on the flop I have these thoughts to share:

Villian raises from the button on a steal, meaning that he will hold an ace a lot of times here as most players steal with A4o+ or even A2o+.

Hero makes it 3 and thus he has the initiative. Betting out here is the play as this is what you would do without an ace aswell, and thus it looks a lot less wierd compared with a checkraise.

Basically ask yourself wich other hands you checkraise here.?

To original poster: river is a call, as you are risking two to win one here.
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Old 10-11-2006, 05:15 PM #5 (permalink)  
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Check-raising the flop is totally out of the question, in my opinion. The way to win the maximum is to play this hand straightforward and fast.

Plus, a flop check looks totally suspicious as I would bet here with K-T offsuit.
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Plus, a flop check looks totally suspicious as I would bet here with any hand I preflop raised with
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Plus, a flop check looks totally suspicious as I would bet here with any hand I preflop raised with
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Yeah, that was the suggestion. I would bet here 100% of the time regardless of holdings.
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Plus, a flop check looks totally suspicious as I would bet here with any hand I preflop raised with
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Yeah, that was the suggestion. I would bet here 100% of the time regardless of holdings.
I figured as much, but I had to say it only because i didn't want someone else to ask.


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