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LeFou
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05-24-2005, 10:44 PM
Post subject: Two J. Harman Questions from SS2
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page 276 (on shorthanded play):
"a player opens for a raise and you find :Jc: :Tc: on the button. Rather than simply call the raise, why not reraise? That will help you get the hand heads-up with position and will also give you the lead ... Now the flop comes
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Your opponent checks to you, and you bet. Unless your opponent started with a premium hand or hit the flop, he often will throw his hand away right there.
My question: I'm not seeing this happen very often at 2/4. In a reraised pot, nearly every opp I've seen is going to take one off.
page 278 (shorthanded, playing LSCs)
"you don't really want to limp into a five-handed pot with You can still play it, but if you do, raise it! ... represent a big hand on the flop whether you hit the flop or now. If you meet with some resistance, it's time to abort..."
My question: what constitutes resistance? Obviously, being raised or reraised ... but what if someone bets the flop, you raise it and get a call. Then they bet again. Does that count as resistance? I'd get out at that point.
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Fnord
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$1,000/$2,000 must be a different metagame
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TylerK
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Is this from the LHE section? I can only assume they're not talking about 2/4 games...
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TylerK: its just gambling if i want to worry about money i'll go to work lol
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LeFou
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her introductory remarks indicate she consider 20/40 and 30/60 normal.
Follow up question: so does all the Be Aggressive advice need to be watered down until you're 5/10 or more?
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Fnord
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The key is selective aggression. You need to consider your opponent.
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TylerK
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Just for example, on the first hand, there is almost no way your opponent is going to fold on the flop for one small bet at 2/4 as the advice suggests. I really don't know how 10/20+ plays.
HOWEVER, I still bet the flop here, because there are plenty of cards to come that I will be happy to bet on the turn if it's checked to me, and WILL likely make opponent fold after setting it up with a flop bet.
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TylerK: its just gambling if i want to worry about money i'll go to work lol
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her introductory remarks indicate she consider 20/40 and 30/60 normal.
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Yet she plays 3K/6K. Like anything you read you have to consider the source. It's probably been many years since she has played a 30/60 thus anything she writes is going to be skewed towards a much bigger game regardless of how much she tries not to.
Her advice simply won't fly most of the time at 2/4 and 3/6 online.
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TheXianti: (Triptanes) why are you not a thinking person?
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whileone
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So, i grew up in a small town. people drive slow, no big hurry to get anywhere. Not to long ago i took a trip to new york. folks in NYC honking and flipping you off is just thier way of saying hello. they aren't really mad until they start pulling guns.
I haven't played 5/10 but i've played a few different sizes of aggression. i think she's getting at, you want to be a *bit* more aggressive than the rest of the table, but not so much they think you're a maniac.
at some tables, calling is damn near an insult, at others three betting is just being friendly. try to find the mark and push a little bit to the aggressive side. but, you know this, you're a smart guy.
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LeFou
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Originally Posted by whileone
you know this, you're a smart guy.
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