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Ltrain
Old 09-05-2005, 12:45 PM     Post subject: Two hands at 3/6 #1 (permalink)  
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Hand #1. UTG +1 is a massive rock; 9% VPIP, 3%PFR, AF of 3 on the flop, but zero aggression after. I don't remember him playing any hands in the last 45 mins. I checkraised to eliminate the possibility of 10-K pockets, and ultimately placed him on A,K. Too weak,tight? Would this type of player re-raise mid pockets or A,J? In my experience, if I get played back after a checkraise HU, it is at a minimum a premium hand each time.

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Preflop: Hero is BB with Q, A.
1 fold, UTG+1 raises, 7 folds, Hero calls.

Flop: (4.33 SB) A, 8, 9 (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 bets, Hero raises, UTG+1 3-bets, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 4.66 BB

Hand #2
MP1 is 40% VPIP and passive. I felt like calling this the reverse isolation play of a fish as I was making it and will try it more often. I am assuming this is a standard play for tighter games and you would raise until the fish fights back? Do any of you use any variations of play being OOP versus an isolation with position?

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Preflop: Hero is SB with Q, K.
3 folds, MP1 calls, 4 folds, Hero raises, 1 fold, MP1 calls.

Flop: (5 SB) 4, 2, 4 (2 players)
Hero bets, MP1 calls.

Turn: (3.50 BB) K (2 players)
Hero bets, MP1 folds.

Final Pot: 4.50 BB
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Old 09-05-2005, 03:06 PM     Post subject: Re: Two hands at 3/6 #2 (permalink)  
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Quote:
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I checkraised to eliminate the possibility of 10-K pockets
Why? It's not important to protect your hand from these possibilities, you would prefer to see them put money into the pot with almost no chance of winning. This wont happen if you check/raise as he's going to fold KK-TT and he will reraise AK or AA. Therefore check/raising the flop just loses bets to his better hands while winning the least from hands that you beat. I'm check/calling the flop and turn and then either bet/folding or check/calling the river depending on his turn action and how tight I really think he is.

After he 3-bets you're certainly beat but I think you can take a look at the turn hoping to spike a Queen.

The second hand is pretty standard.
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Old 09-05-2005, 04:15 PM #3 (permalink)  
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Old 09-05-2005, 05:21 PM #4 (permalink)  
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H1: Call down.
i think i call down the first hand too...i dont think im sure enough that he has AK to fold this, even if he is a rock i think he 3-bets you with AJ or AQ here as well...maybe even much lesser hands if he's slightly tilting from a run of cold cards (could be the reason he hasnt played a hand in quite a while)
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Old 09-05-2005, 06:46 PM #5 (permalink)  
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Yeah, KK/QQ will play back at you too often if you raise the flop "for information."
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Old 09-05-2005, 07:35 PM #6 (permalink)  
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if this was NL, i'd say good fold in #1, but you're playing limit and that's a bad fold
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