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Old 12-06-2005, 12:12 AM     Post subject: A turn bet and a turn fold. #1 (permalink)  
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Hand 1: CO is a spewer I have him at 60/10/1,5 after 75 hands. Can't remember think button is decent.

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Preflop: Hero is BB with 9, A.
2 folds, CO calls, Button raises, 1 fold, Hero calls, CO calls.

Flop: (6.40 SB) 2, Q, 6 (3 players)
Hero checks, CO bets, Button calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (4.70 BB) 9 (3 players)
Hero checks, CO bets, Button folds, Hero raises...?

Flopline is very questionable and a fold wouldn't be out of line here. However I thought I might have a few outs since the preflop raiser only called flop bet.

turn well obviosly this nine is good, but does it warant my checkraise (I'm only doing this when button folds).

Hand 2: Assume no reads.

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Preflop: Hero is SB with Q, 9.
1 fold, MP calls, Button calls, Hero completes, BB raises, MP calls, Button calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (8 SB) Q, 9, 3 (4 players)
Hero checks, BB bets, MP raises, Button folds, Hero 3-bets, BB calls, MP caps, Hero calls, BB calls.

Turn: (10 BB) 2 (3 players)
Hero checks, BB bets, MP raises, Hero folds....?

Go ahead and kill me for this turn fold but I really figured someone had the flush by turn. My odds for fillin up is 13% or 1:7,67. The pot is laying me 1:6,5 and I might have to pay one or two more bets to go to river. I don't think I'm leaving much here, but chances are I could make it +EV with the extra bets going in on river.
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Old 12-06-2005, 12:53 AM #2 (permalink)  
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For me, hand 2 is a clear flop call, planning to raise any non heart turn.
The turn is a fold, since you aren't closing the action and aren't getting the right price to draw.
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Old 12-06-2005, 08:50 AM #3 (permalink)  
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Glad to hear my fold wasn't totally insane..

I thought about calling and raising a nonheart, and now that you mentioned it I think it has it's merrits.
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Old 12-06-2005, 08:18 PM #4 (permalink)  
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Hand 1: If youve got a read, yet are ignoring the read, why have the read?
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Old 12-06-2005, 08:57 PM #5 (permalink)  
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which read am I ignoring you think..? not sure I understand you Euphoricism
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