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tiswin
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08-02-2006, 08:18 PM
Post subject: TT under pair and multiway pot.
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High Card
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 12
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Hi all,
Thanks for the responses to the last post. (I also got a lot out of the other threads - I hope.)
I would be grateful for comments about how to pay this on each street.
PokerStars 0.05/0.10 Hold'em (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
Preflop: Hero is MP3 with T , T .
UTG calls, 2 folds, MP2 calls, Hero raises, 1 fold, Button calls, 1 fold, BB 3-bets, UTG calls, MP2 calls, Hero calls, Button calls.
Flop: (15.40 SB) A, J , 8 (5 players)
BB checks, UTG bets, MP2 folds, Hero raises, Button calls, BB calls, UTG calls.
Turn: (11.70 BB) A (4 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks, Button checks.
River: (11.70 BB) 5 (4 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks, Button bets, BB calls, UTG calls
Final Pot: 14.70 BB
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thenonsequitur
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08-02-2006, 08:37 PM
Post subject: Re: TT under pair and multiway pot.
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Full House
Join Date: Nov 2004
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Preflop I like. On the flop I can't imagine you being ahead, you don't have much fold equity, and you're drawing to a 2-outer, so what does a raise accomplish? I just call because there's 16.4SB in the pot. With implied odds you've probably got what you need to hit your set on the turn. But it's really close, and I wouldn't complain about folding the flop either. Check/fold UI after that.
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Ltrain
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Flush
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Miami, Florida
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Fold the Flop. Button 3 bet cold called you preflop, you are definitely behind on the flop with two overs, there are two cards to a flush on the board already of a suit you don't have, and your 2 outs are tained because it could either make a flush or a straight.
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"Don't judge a man until you have walked a mile in his shoes. Then you are a mile away, and have his shoes." - Anon.
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thenonsequitur
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Full House
Join Date: Nov 2004
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by Ltrain
Fold the Flop. Button 3 bet cold called you preflop, you are definitely behind on the flop with two overs, there are two cards to a flush on the board already of a suit you don't have, and your 2 outs are tained because it could either make a flush or a straight.
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Ltrain is right. I didn't see how coordinated the board was. Even if you hit you have a good chance of being behind. (And you could even be up against a slow-played set of jacks or aces). Just fold this.
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arkitekton
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Flush
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: canada
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Fold on the flop--it's clear cut, for reasons given by other posters. Also, regardless of what comes on the flop you need to approach that round cautiously. The button 3-bet preflop (not a bet you wanted to hear), something many players will only do in that situation with AKs, AA, KK, and QQ. While some players do have a wider range, there's a good chance you are way behind, and are drawing to at most 2-outs regardless of the flop. Once the Ace does appear on the flop, you are almost certainly drawing, at best, to two outs.
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euphoricism
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Mar 2005
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This one statement:
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Originally Posted by arkitekton
The button 3-bet preflop (not a bet you wanted to hear), something many players will only do in that situation with AKs, AA, KK, and QQ.
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Is so, so, so much more valuable than you think it is.
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euphoricism
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Mar 2005
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Except I should read the hand more carefully. He actually means BIG BLIND, not button.
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