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Trying to get to grips with $2/4
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Anosmic
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11-04-2006, 07:45 AM
Post subject: Trying to get to grips with $2/4
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Full House
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Sweden
Posts: 999
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As part of my efforts to learn SH I'm also playing $2/4 and it seems fairly loose on Crypto.
Hand 1
How bad was this? Any tips welcome!
Limit Hold'em CryptoLogic ($2/$4)
Converted by FTRConv
6-handed
StacksSB: $20.02
Hero: $80
UTG: $143.13
UTG+1: $135.50
CO: $193.75
BTN: $91.32
Pre-Flop: Hero is BB with 3 3
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, CO folds, BTN calls, SB calls, Hero raises, BTN calls, SB calls,
Flop:(6SB) J T 6 (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, BTN calls, SB folds,
Turn:(5BB) 9 (2 players)
Hero bets, BTN calls,
River:(7BB) J (2 players)
Hero bets, BTN raises, Hero folds,
Final Pot: 10 BB
Hand 2
What do you think?
Limit Hold'em CryptoLogic ($2/$4)
Converted by FTRConv
6-handed
StacksUTG+1: $42
CO: $267.21
BTN: $81.75
Hero: $76
BB: $78
UTG: $498.55
Pre-Flop: Hero is SB with T T
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, CO calls, BTN folds, Hero raises, BB calls, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, CO calls,
Flop:(10SB) 9 8 5 (5 players)
Hero bets, BB folds, UTG calls, UTG+1 raises, CO calls, Hero 3-bets, UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, CO calls,
Turn:(15BB) T (3 players)
Hero bets, UTG+1 calls, CO calls,
River:(18BB) 3 (3 players)
Hero bets, UTG+1 folds, CO calls,
Final Pot: 20 BB
Hand 3
Villain is very loose/aggro
Limit Hold'em CryptoLogic ($2/$4)
Converted by FTRConv
6-handed
StacksUTG: $78.13
UTG+1: $102.50
CO: $49.38
BTN: $88.75
Hero: $66.75
BB: $174.63
Pre-Flop: Hero is SB with K Q
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, CO raises, BTN folds, Hero 3-bets, BB 4-bets, CO calls, Hero calls,
Flop:(12SB) J 5 4 (3 players)
Hero checks, BB bets, CO folds, Hero calls,
Turn:(8BB) Q (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets, Hero calls,
River:(10BB) 4 (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets, Hero calls,
Final Pot: 12 BB
Hand 4
Villain 46/20 over 50 hands... should I be wary here, or is it stupid to stop betting, ever, with this flop?
Limit Hold'em CryptoLogic ($2/$4)
Converted by FTRConv
6-handed
StacksUTG: $97
Hero: $87
CO: $47.75
BTN: $94.75
SB: $13.50
BB: $45.37
Pre-Flop: Hero is UTG+1 with A T
UTG folds, Hero raises, CO folds, BTN folds, SB folds, BB calls,
Flop:(4.5SB) 8 T T (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, BB raises, Hero calls,
Turn:(6.25BB) J (2 players)
BB bets, Hero raises, BB 3-bets, Hero calls,
River:(12.25BB) 2 (2 players)
BB bets, Hero calls,
Final Pot: 14.25 BB
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Mr_Pokah
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Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Stockholm, Sweden
Posts: 20
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Hand #1
This is spewing chips big time. Pocket threes in a multiway pot OOP has no value unless you flop a set (or possibly a str8draw). I would check preflop and check/fold this flop. Always consider the flop texture, a J and a T and a possible flushdraw and str8draw out, you will not be able to get both opponents to fold here.
Remember, you don't have to be the guy at the table that wins the most pots, you should be the guy that wins the most chips.
Hand #2
Your hand is often the best but very vunerable on this flop against several opponents. You need to get ppl to fold and a single bet wont do it in this big pot. Check raise the flop! Protect your hand.
Hand #3
I would have played this hand the same. A cap from the BB preflop is a monster sign of strength and against most opponents your facing AA KK QQ JJ AK AQ here, but since your read on the guy is that he is a maniac he probably could have anything.
Hand #4
I would cap the turn, if he has JT then god bless him.
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midas06
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: NZ
Posts: 2,196
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hand 1 is terrible, 2 I quite like, 3 I want to raise somewhere, 4 I cap the turn, if he leads the river I call, if he check/raises the river I puke
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NWNewell
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Flush
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Kennedy Space Center, FL
Posts: 283
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Hand 1:
I don't have too much problem with the pre-flop raise. But you are really out on a limb if you miss your set. I would prefer just checking such a low PP. But yu're getting 5:1 on that raise since you expect both the SB and BTN to call. (typically, the min pot odds I like to have for set value). Cbetting the flop is tough with three overs, two oppoenents, and one having position on you. However, I don't hate it. No one else raised preflop, I don't think anyone has a big hand or two overs, if they didn't pair, calling would be difficult. But with the BTN calling your flop bet with J&T on the board, I think "the jig is up!" He open limped, a poor play, but I think that is highly likely that a hand he is likely to open limp with contains a T or J (weaker hands should be folding or stealing, stronger hands should be raising... J&T seems like cards in a limping range to me). He could be on a flush draw, and I guess you will have to rely on your read. But my read says that if he is open limping, he is pretty passive, and could easily be calling down second pair or a weak jack. If he is loose/passive, he could have limped with weak suited cards (hearts). I don't know if he is on a flush draw or has a pair. But I don't care for betting the turn (c/f), and hate betting that river. The most reasonable things we can put him on is a flush draw or pair. In either case, you are beat now.
Hand 2
UTG+1 is probably raising the flush draw to build the pot with enough opponents to do so correctly. I continue betting your likely best hand. too many draws (flush, straight, overs) to try and chase out 5 players with that big of a pot. I don't think too many people are going anywhere, even for a check/raise. You will only chase out the weak draws, which are the only ones you would prefer to stay. Turn and river, same deal...
Don't have time for the other hands at the moment......
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