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Shark Bait
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04-20-2006, 11:09 PM
Post subject: Trouble moving from 1/2 to 2/4 on UB
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Flush
Join Date: Mar 2005
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I do alright at 1/2, but every time I try to make the move to 2/4 it's just a disaster. The rake is a little higher at 2/4, but not enough to make a big difference. It's been a constant cycle for the last 6 months or so. I win enough at 1/2 to move up to 2/4 and then lose a few hundred at 2/4 and then repeat.
Anyway...here's my stats. I would argue they are better at 2/4, except for the money part.
Suggestions or comments are welcome. I don't know if posting hands would help. What can be so different that causes me to do so poorly? It's not just a small sample. Every session has been a losing one. Stats at other sites have been similar.
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MiJ
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Straight
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Miami
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to me 2/4 is the same game as 1/2, you could be on a downswing , 2,500 hands isnt enough to tell if its you thats playing poorly or your just having a little bad luck ..when i get stuck or im in a downswing ,i go back and reread SSHE AND MDLHE ,doing that gives me a little confidence when i go back and play , you should also try scouting games , try to find typical games and stay away from maniacs , you can make alot of money off of maniacs but you can also lose alot to them (and there are plenty of maniacs at party,believe me) ...
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midas06
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: NZ
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That's what I was like for a while. Make sure your br can withstand a 100bb downswing without you having to drop down before you move up. This ensures you can ride out any downswing.
2/4 isn't all that much harder.
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Nehmer
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Full House
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Decatur, IL
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very very small sample size for 2/4. I can get in about that many hands in a day playing 6 tables at a time and I have days where I lose 2.31+ BB/100 fairly often. That said, you should probably be attempting to steal the blinds a bit more often than you are. Looks like you might be holding on to your BB quite a bit too often also. I don't have my poker tracker stats with me right now, but I'm pretty sure my Folded BB to steal is around 60-65%. That said, the 2/4 game probably isn't much more difficult than the 1/2 game, so it really does all come down to sample size.
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pokerfanatic
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Aug 2004
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get your ass off UB?
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Shark Bait
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Originally Posted by MiJ
to me 2/4 is the same game as 1/2, you could be on a downswing , 2,500 hands isnt enough to tell if its you thats playing poorly or your just having a little bad luck ..when i get stuck or im in a downswing ,i go back and reread SSHE AND MDLHE ,doing that gives me a little confidence when i go back and play , you should also try scouting games , try to find typical games and stay away from maniacs , you can make alot of money off of maniacs but you can also lose alot to them (and there are plenty of maniacs at party,believe me) ...
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Well at party it may be the same, but at UB it's totally different. The "really bad" players have 25% VP$IP. Most are just rocks that play tricky. And I do really focus on seat selection. Many times I have the best possible seat and the money just keeps dropping.
I think I will re-read SSH in case I've gotten into some bad habits. The only thing I notice is I tend to call on the flop with nothing a little too much.
My bankroll can withstand a big downswing at 2/4, but when it happens I just go back to 1/2 to build it back up. Makes me kind of wish I just kept playing at 1/2.
When I played 2/4 at party my stats were much worse than this over about 5,000 hands so I really don't like the small sample argument. It's always been negative. At 1/2 I'm ending the day up more often than down.
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Shark Bait
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Originally Posted by pokerfanatic
get your ass off UB?
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ahahaha...probably good advice, but I just haven't found a site that I like as much as UB.
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elipsesjeff
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Join Date: Jul 2004
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Originally Posted by pokerfanatic
get your ass off UB?
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ahahaha...probably good advice, but I just haven't found a site that I like as much as UB. |
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AND, small sample, you're only down 50 BB in 2300 hands!!! gimme a break...
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jmontis
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Full House
Join Date: Dec 2004
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yea UBs limit games are pretty bad, not in the good way either
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take your ego out of the equation and judge the situation dispassionately
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Shark Bait
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Flush
Join Date: Mar 2005
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Originally Posted by jmontis
yea UBs limit games are pretty bad, not in the good way either
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I won't argue there. The thing is, at 1/2 it's very consistant money. There's not a lot of crazies that introduce a lot of variance. There's the rocks and the just plain bad players. Stay away from the rocks and take the bad players money. I don't often leave a table losing money. I guess 2/4 is where it's just the boring rocks and very few genuine bad players.
So...stars or poker room have RB? pm me if you know. I'll look into them. Hate the look and feel of both, but I suppose I should be playing with more fish. I just have to get about 500 more ultimate points to buy something. 
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