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Old 02-15-2009, 06:28 AM     Post subject: Tricky spot vs the whale #1 (permalink)  
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 Opp is as bad a player as I have ever seen at 1/2 or 2/4. sometimes silly aggressive but also calls too much. he could have any FD, any two pair, set, 7x. Thoughts on all streets?

FullTiltPoker Game #10637055000: Table Lafaette (6 max) - $2/$4 - Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 23:55:12 ET - 2009/02/14
Seat 1: Christie_dee ($0), is sitting out
Seat 2: CptTrips333 ($1,747.10)
Seat 3: DrMcBoy ($386)
Seat 4: nyr1317 ($336)
Seat 5: Demonfrost ($2,649.65)
Seat 6: Erik Bloodaxe ($710.20)
Erik Bloodaxe posts the small blind of $2
CptTrips333 posts the big blind of $4
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to DrMcBoy [Kd 3s Ah Ad]
Christie_dee stands up
DrMcBoy raises to $12
nyr1317 calls $12
Demonfrost calls $12
Erik Bloodaxe has 15 seconds left to act
Erik Bloodaxe folds
CptTrips333 calls $8
*** FLOP *** [7h 3d 5d]
CptTrips333 checks
DrMcBoy bets $40
nyr1317 has 15 seconds left to act
nyr1317 folds
Demonfrost calls $40
CptTrips333 folds
*** TURN *** [7h 3d 5d] [7d]
DrMcBoy has 15 seconds left to act
DrMcBoy checks
Demonfrost checks
*** RIVER *** [7h 3d 5d 7d] [Qs]
DrMcBoy has 15 seconds left to act
DrMcBoy bets $104
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Old 02-21-2009, 06:23 PM #2 (permalink)  
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I like the play. (didn't notice the flush the first time)

As this guy seems to call a lot and has a monster stack I like the river bet too.


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Old 02-21-2009, 07:23 PM #3 (permalink)  
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seems fine too me. just bet fold river.

you bet pot about 2/3rds?? would this be too big vs his possible hand range to call?
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 he'll call with flushes and 64, 7s are a toss up but I think so. He was also plenty crazy enough to bluff raise or even think K high flush was good on the river, so if we lead smaller it has to be b/c i think (not saying that's bad).
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wasnt till after i read title again that opp is a fish.

btw he cant have K high flush since we have that too. u happy too call a pot raise on river here?
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Old 02-21-2009, 08:03 PM #6 (permalink)  
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 No, I'm not happy getting raised at all
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Old 02-22-2009, 12:14 AM #7 (permalink)  
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yea cool i agree
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 bet/fold I guess

not sure about sizing, have to think about it a little bit. With your reads I don't see how you were expecting anything but bet/fold.
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Old 02-23-2009, 02:39 AM #9 (permalink)  

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Given description of player I would keep betting, and get it in if raised
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Old 02-23-2009, 04:07 AM #10 (permalink)  
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 I'm confused as to why this isn't a standard triple barrel here, vs a bad player who is silly aggro (ie: will likely raise a set on the flop) and will probably call down with worse flushes and maybe even 7x?
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Old 02-23-2009, 03:48 PM #11 (permalink)  
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 Hand is easier to play if you bet turn. And I think it's standard spot to bet the turn.

As played I think b/c is ok. I think he loses value by checking back turn if he has FH. If you think he will fire with a bluff on river, maybe even c/c or c/cr if your feeling spunky. I would expect to see 64xx or a smaller flush here a decent amount of time if he is how you described.
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 woo hoo, I made a popular post with many opinions!

I thought I would post a few of the hands villain played unconventionally... sry converter still is failing on PT hands.


FullTiltPoker Game #10638143404: Table Lafaette (6 max) - $2/$4 - Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 1:13:21 ET - 2009/02/15
Seat 1: rifrifrif ($95)
Seat 2: CptTrips333 ($1,578.80)
Seat 3: DrMcBoy ($596.30)
Seat 4: desputas ($414.60)
Seat 5: Demonfrost ($2,017.25)
Seat 6: Erik Bloodaxe ($1,337.80)
CptTrips333 posts the small blind of $2
DrMcBoy posts the big blind of $4
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to DrMcBoy [2c 8d 7d 9d]
desputas raises to $14
Demonfrost raises to $48
Erik Bloodaxe folds
rifrifrif folds
CptTrips333 folds
DrMcBoy folds
desputas raises to $150
Demonfrost calls $102
*** FLOP *** [4c 9s 5c]
desputas has 15 seconds left to act
desputas bets $264.60, and is all in
Demonfrost calls $264.60
desputas shows [8h Ah As 8c]
Demonfrost shows [4h Jc 9h Kh]
*** TURN *** [4c 9s 5c] [Qh]
*** RIVER *** [4c 9s 5c Qh] [2s]
desputas shows a pair of Aces
Demonfrost shows two pair, Nines and Fours
Demonfrost wins the pot ($832.20) with two pair, Nines and Fours
desputas is sitting out
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $835.20 | Rake $3
Board: [4c 9s 5c Qh 2s]
Seat 1: rifrifrif (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: CptTrips333 (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 3: DrMcBoy (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 4: desputas showed [8h Ah As 8c] and lost with a pair of Aces
Seat 5: Demonfrost showed [4h Jc 9h Kh] and won ($832.20) with two pair, Nines and Fours
Seat 6: Erik Bloodaxe didn't bet (folded)

FullTiltPoker Game #10637641130: Table Cotton (6 max) - $2/$4 - Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 0:35:51 ET - 2009/02/15
Seat 1: Demonfrost ($438.70)
Seat 2: DrMcBoy ($427)
Seat 3: smithroger_777 ($398)
Seat 4: rudolfsen ($640.30)
Seat 5: ajwisely ($638.80)
Seat 6: CptTrips333 ($400)
rudolfsen posts the small blind of $2
ajwisely posts the big blind of $4
The button is in seat #3
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to DrMcBoy [2d Ks Td 5s]
Demonfrost raises to $14
DrMcBoy folds
smithroger_777 raises to $48
rudolfsen folds
ajwisely folds
Demonfrost calls $34
*** FLOP *** [8s 4d 9c]
Demonfrost bets $51
smithroger_777 raises to $255
Demonfrost raises to $390.70, and is all in
smithroger_777 calls $95, and is all in
Demonfrost shows [6h Qc 7h 6c]
smithroger_777 shows [Ad Ac Qd 8h]
Uncalled bet of $40.70 returned to Demonfrost
*** TURN *** [8s 4d 9c] [3s]
*** RIVER *** [8s 4d 9c 3s] [5h]
Demonfrost shows a straight, Nine high
smithroger_777 shows a pair of Aces
Demonfrost wins the pot ($799) with a straight, Nine high
smithroger_777 is sitting out
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $802 | Rake $3
Board: [8s 4d 9c 3s 5h]
Seat 1: Demonfrost showed [6h Qc 7h 6c] and won ($799) with a straight, Nine high
Seat 2: DrMcBoy didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: smithroger_777 (button) showed [Ad Ac Qd 8h] and lost with a pair of Aces
Seat 4: rudolfsen (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 5: ajwisely (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 6: CptTrips333 is sitting out

FullTiltPoker Game #10638751331: Table Lafaette (6 max) - $2/$4 - Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 2:02:02 ET - 2009/02/15
Seat 1: pokercoq ($255)
Seat 2: CptTrips333 ($1,319)
Seat 3: DrMcBoy ($837.50)
Seat 4: fab4z ($2,451.20)
Seat 5: Demonfrost ($299.85)
Seat 6: Erik Bloodaxe ($1,563.60)
fab4z posts the small blind of $2
Demonfrost posts the big blind of $4
The button is in seat #3
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to DrMcBoy [3d Kc 9d 9s]
Erik Bloodaxe folds
pokercoq folds
CptTrips333 calls $4
DrMcBoy calls $4
fab4z folds
Demonfrost raises to $18
CptTrips333 raises to $60
DrMcBoy folds
Demonfrost calls $42
*** FLOP *** [Tc 4c Kh]
Demonfrost checks
CptTrips333 bets $126
Demonfrost raises to $239.85, and is all in
CptTrips333 calls $113.85
Demonfrost shows [Qc 4s Js 6d]
CptTrips333 shows [2c Ad As Ks]
*** TURN *** [Tc 4c Kh] [9c]
*** RIVER *** [Tc 4c Kh 9c] [Td]
Demonfrost shows a straight, King high
CptTrips333 shows two pair, Aces and Tens
Demonfrost wins the pot ($602.70) with a straight, King high
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $605.70 | Rake $3
Board: [Tc 4c Kh 9c Td]
Seat 1: pokercoq didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: CptTrips333 showed [2c Ad As Ks] and lost with two pair, Aces and Tens
Seat 3: DrMcBoy (button) folded before the Flop
Seat 4: fab4z (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 5: Demonfrost (big blind) showed [Qc 4s Js 6d] and won ($602.70) with a straight, King high
Seat 6: Erik Bloodaxe didn't bet (folded)

This would almost be sexy if his image wasn't so terribad

FullTiltPoker Game #10638502765: Table Lafaette (6 max) - $2/$4 - Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 1:41:47 ET - 2009/02/15
Seat 1: rifrifrif ($127)
Seat 2: CptTrips333 ($1,542.10)
Seat 3: DrMcBoy ($697.30)
Seat 4: fab4z ($1,151.10)
Seat 5: Demonfrost ($1,736.75)
Seat 6: Erik Bloodaxe ($1,348.60)
rifrifrif posts the small blind of $2
CptTrips333 posts the big blind of $4
The button is in seat #6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to DrMcBoy [6d 4h Jc Tc]
DrMcBoy folds
fab4z has 15 seconds left to act
fab4z raises to $12
Demonfrost raises to $42
Erik Bloodaxe folds
rifrifrif folds
CptTrips333 calls $38
fab4z has 15 seconds left to act
fab4z calls $30
*** FLOP *** [Jd Kh Th]
CptTrips333 checks
fab4z checks
Demonfrost bets $112
CptTrips333 calls $112
fab4z has 15 seconds left to act
fab4z raises to $576
Demonfrost raises to $1,694.75, and is all in
CptTrips333 has 15 seconds left to act
CptTrips333 has requested TIME
CptTrips333 folds
fab4z calls $533.10, and is all in
Demonfrost shows [Qh 2s Jh 9s]
fab4z shows [6h Qs Qd As]
Uncalled bet of $585.65 returned to Demonfrost
*** TURN *** [Jd Kh Th] [Qc]
*** RIVER *** [Jd Kh Th Qc] [3d]
Demonfrost shows a straight, King high
fab4z shows a straight, Ace high
fab4z wins the pot ($2,455.20) with a straight, Ace high
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $2,458.20 | Rake $3
Board: [Jd Kh Th Qc 3d]
Seat 1: rifrifrif (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 2: CptTrips333 (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 3: DrMcBoy didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: fab4z showed [6h Qs Qd As] and won ($2,455.20) with a straight, Ace high
Seat 5: Demonfrost showed [Qh 2s Jh 9s] and lost with a straight, King high
Seat 6: Erik Bloodaxe (button) didn't bet (folded)

FullTiltPoker Game #10638014224: Table Cotton (6 max) - $2/$4 - Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 1:03:21 ET - 2009/02/15
Seat 1: Demonfrost ($797.80)
Seat 2: DrMcBoy ($394)
Seat 3: Erik Bloodaxe ($400)
Seat 4: rudolfsen ($828.15)
Seat 5: ajwisely ($400)
Seat 6: CptTrips333 ($1,337.95)
rudolfsen posts the small blind of $2
ajwisely posts the big blind of $4
The button is in seat #3
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to DrMcBoy [3h As Jh 2c]
CptTrips333 folds
Demonfrost raises to $14
DrMcBoy folds
Erik Bloodaxe calls $14
rudolfsen folds
ajwisely adds $4
ajwisely folds
*** FLOP *** [Th 9s 4s]
Demonfrost bets $17
Erik Bloodaxe raises to $85
Demonfrost calls $68
*** TURN *** [Th 9s 4s] [8c]
Demonfrost checks
Erik Bloodaxe bets $204
Demonfrost raises to $698.80, and is all in
Erik Bloodaxe calls $97, and is all in
Demonfrost shows [Jd 4h 9d 8s]
Erik Bloodaxe shows [Js 8h Jc Qh]
Uncalled bet of $397.80 returned to Demonfrost
*** RIVER *** [Th 9s 4s 8c] [Kc]
Demonfrost shows two pair, Nines and Eights
Erik Bloodaxe shows a straight, King high
Erik Bloodaxe wins the pot ($803) with a straight, King high
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $806 | Rake $3
Board: [Th 9s 4s 8c Kc]
Seat 1: Demonfrost showed [Jd 4h 9d 8s] and lost with two pair, Nines and Eights
Seat 2: DrMcBoy didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: Erik Bloodaxe (button) showed [Js 8h Jc Qh] and won ($803) with a straight, King high
Seat 4: rudolfsen (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 5: ajwisely (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 6: CptTrips333 didn't bet (folded)

this one takes the cake imo

FullTiltPoker Game #10637271837: Table Lafaette (6 max) - $2/$4 - Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 0:10:11 ET - 2009/02/15
Seat 1: wh0di23 ($163)
Seat 2: CptTrips333 ($1,867.10)
Seat 3: DrMcBoy ($443.70)
Seat 4: nyr1317 ($404.40)
Seat 5: Demonfrost ($2,355.45)
Seat 6: Erik Bloodaxe ($650.30)
wh0di23 posts the small blind of $2
CptTrips333 posts the big blind of $4
The button is in seat #6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to DrMcBoy [Jd 6c 4h 4c]
DrMcBoy folds
nyr1317 calls $4
Demonfrost raises to $8
Erik Bloodaxe calls $8
wh0di23 calls $6
CptTrips333 calls $4
nyr1317 calls $4
*** FLOP *** [Qs 9s 7c]
wh0di23 checks
CptTrips333 checks
nyr1317 checks
Demonfrost bets $40
Erik Bloodaxe has 15 seconds left to act
Erik Bloodaxe raises to $130
wh0di23 folds
CptTrips333 folds
nyr1317 has 15 seconds left to act
nyr1317 calls $130
Demonfrost calls $90
*** TURN *** [Qs 9s 7c] [3c]
nyr1317 checks
Demonfrost bets $215
Erik Bloodaxe raises to $512.30, and is all in
nyr1317 has been disconnected
nyr1317 has 15 seconds left to act
nyr1317 has reconnected
nyr1317 has 15 seconds left to act
nyr1317 has requested TIME
nyr1317 folds
Demonfrost calls $297.30
Erik Bloodaxe shows [6h Ah 9c 9d]
Demonfrost shows [Qd 8c 4d 7d]
*** RIVER *** [Qs 9s 7c 3c] [9h]
Erik Bloodaxe shows four of a kind, Nines
Demonfrost shows two pair, Queens and Nines
Erik Bloodaxe wins the pot ($1,451.60) with four of a kind, Nines
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $1,454.60 | Rake $3
Board: [Qs 9s 7c 3c 9h]
Seat 1: wh0di23 (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 2: CptTrips333 (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 3: DrMcBoy didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: nyr1317 folded on the Turn
Seat 5: Demonfrost showed [Qd 8c 4d 7d] and lost with two pair, Queens and Nines
Seat 6: Erik Bloodaxe (button) showed [6h Ah 9c 9d] and won ($1,451.60) with four of a kind, Nines
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 I think seeing these hands makes me want to triple even more, and not less.

He's definitely not folding anything pre thats for sure. I feel like this villain would raise sets on the flop though.
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Old 02-24-2009, 09:28 PM #14 (permalink)  
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i think ill be chiming into this forum abit, i like omaha even more now since ive a better grasp of ranges and tendencies in general.

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