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Hermann the Lombard
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10-21-2007, 12:54 AM
Post subject: TPTK paired board redux
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Flush
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PokerStars 0.05/0.10 Hold'em (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with K , A .
UTG calls, Hero raises, 1 fold, MP2 calls, 1 fold, Button calls, 2 folds, UTG calls.
Flop: (9.40 SB) A , 7 , 7 (4 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets, MP2 calls, Button calls, UTG folds.
Turn: (6.20 BB) T (3 players)
Hero bets, MP2 calls, Button raises, Hero ...
Less than 10 hands at the table. MP2 in about 2/3 of the hands and BB about 1/2, no PFR by either yet.
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KoRnholio
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That call flop, raise turn line in position is a set (or in this case, trips) line so often. But because of the drawy board, I can't lay this down. Could well be Ax in diamonds.
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arborman
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Call, check call the river unimproved. You may be beat, but often enough you are facing an over played ace rag to make it worth calling down. Most of the time with these hands I curse myself for being too passive after the turn action when it turns out the aggressor is an idiot. And you might yet improve on the river.
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snowboard_31
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c, c/c agree with it being worth it as such low stakes. Make a note on his line and take him down next time if he has you.
Players love to float on paired boards, especially to a cbet from the pfr. I think a ten, two diamonds, AK-AQ might take this line. Your behind to a 7 (A7s(extremely unlikely), 78, 67) and then 1010, AA-very unlikely. I could see queens or jacks even taking this line.
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Hermann the Lombard
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That is the line that I took. I'm glad to see that my reasoning was OK. I didn't want to assume that the monster under the bed but I also didn't want to assume that it was not.
Turn: (6.20 BB) T (3 players)
Hero bets, MP2 calls, Button raises, Hero calls, MP2 calls.
River: (12.20 BB) 6 (3 players)
Hero checks, MP2 checks, Button bets, Hero calls, MP2 folds.
Final Pot: 14.20 BB
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pokerfanatic
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if you don't have a read then calling down isn't a huge spew but i feel he flips up a 7 a lot here... or a boat...
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littleogre
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the fact that villan called flop then raised turn screams a 7.
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DrivingDog
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by littleogre
the fact that villan called flop then raised turn screams a 7.
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It absolutely says 7 but one of seven times it will say AQ or worse so i call down.
Meta game if you fold this every time you will get bluffed out of a lot of money.
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KoRnholio
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by DrivingDog
Meta game if you fold this every time you will get bluffed out of a lot of money.
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Very true. I think it's easily balanced by folding when the board is dry but calling if the board is draw-heavy like in this example. That extra chance that he's semi-bluffing tips the scale.
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Some days it feels like I've been standing forever, waiting for the bank teller to return so I can cash in all these Sklansky Bucks.
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