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Old 01-27-2005, 04:28 AM     Post subject: tough KK hand #1 (permalink)  
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Preflop: Hero is MP1 with K, K.
UTG folds, UTG+1 raises, Hero 3-bets, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, CO folds, Button folds, SB folds, BB folds, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: (7.50 SB) T, J, A (2 players)
UTG+1 bets, Hero raises, UTG+1 3-bets, Hero calls.

Turn: (6.75 BB) 6 (2 players)
UTG+1 bets, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 7.75 BB

Anybody call this down? I'm torn after the fact.
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Old 01-27-2005, 05:02 AM #2 (permalink)  
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i call this down.
 
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Old 01-27-2005, 05:34 AM #3 (permalink)  
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Don't raise the flop. Just call it down.
 
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Old 01-27-2005, 09:04 PM #4 (permalink)  
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my gut wants to say the flop raise is correct b/c you have to protect your hand in case the guy has 2 diamonds, OESD, or even QJ (2nd pr + gutshot).

but now that i look at it again, this is a tiny pot that may not be worth fighting for. calling could be the right move.

still, i like raising to go for the free card play. even a medium ace is generally going to check to you on the turn if you raise the flop.

when the guy 3bets, you have to put him on:
- AK (TPTK)
- AQ (TP good kicker + str8 draw)
- AJ (2 pr)
- AT (2 pr)
- JT (2 pr)
- KQ (str8)
- JJ (set)
- TT (set)

all of which crush you. the bet on the turn is confirmation. there's no way to win this other than to spike that K and pray you're not against KQ.

i wouldn't feel bad about folding.

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