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Old 10-30-2007, 11:42 PM     Post subject: Top 2 pair in a huge pot #1 (permalink)  
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MP2 is a maniac - super loose, gets more aggressive on every street. VPIP 55, Agg factor 2.5. The kind of player who plays bottom pair the same as the stone nuts. He's bought himself a lot of pots, but lost some to total bonehead plays as well. I have trouble playing against guys like this more than any other style.

UTG is a good player (19 VPIP, Agg 1.35 over 100 hands or so). The others I haven't got much of a specific read on, but overall table VPIP is about 40%.

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q, A.
1 fold, UTG+1 raises, 1 fold, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, 2 folds, Hero 3-bets, 1 fold, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls.

Flop: (15.50 SB) 9, 2, Q (5 players)
BB checks, UTG+1 bets, MP1 calls, MP2 raises, Hero 3-bets, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 caps, Hero calls, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls.

Turn: (16.75 BB) A (5 players)
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, MP2 bets, Hero raises, BB folds, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls.

River: (24.75 BB) 7 (4 players)
UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, MP2 bets, Hero raises, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls.

Final Pot: 32.75 BB
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Old 10-30-2007, 11:47 PM #2 (permalink)  
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Edit: On second thought, if this is at 1/2 or higher (or the game isn't totally no fold'em hold'em) I might just call the river to induce overcalls by worse hands.
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Old 10-30-2007, 11:58 PM #3 (permalink)  
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In a 28BB pot nobody is going to find a fold now, or such was my thinking.
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Old 10-31-2007, 01:03 AM #4 (permalink)  
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If this is a .10/.20 hand that flop action smells an awful lot like a set. I probably still raise the turn expecting a check/3-bet from one of the sane(r) foes, then I wimp out and call the river.
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Old 10-31-2007, 01:38 AM #5 (permalink)  
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In a 28BB pot nobody is going to find a fold now, or such was my thinking.
This is probably true, regardless of the limits. I just have a hard time putting UTG and MP1 on much of a hand here. That made me think they would fold to 2 bets on the river, but likely look up 1 bet.


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If this is a .10/.20 hand that flop action smells an awful lot like a set. I probably still raise the turn expecting a check/3-bet from one of the sane(r) foes, then I wimp out and call the river.
Why would the .10/.20 limits make this a set? Opponent has shown he likes to overplay a ton of weak hands. And the callers are most likely on some sort of straight or overcard draw (with the pot so big, chase that K or A one pair!).
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Old 10-31-2007, 09:13 AM #6 (permalink)  
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Against your typical over-aggro donk I'd say this looks like two pair or a terribly played JJ/KK
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Old 10-31-2007, 04:48 PM #7 (permalink)  
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Why would the .10/.20 limits make this a set?
I have scars that suggest this...but that's, um, "results oriented."
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