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Old 07-30-2007, 05:36 PM     Post subject: Too LAG here? #1 (permalink)  
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No real reads other than Zozek tight preflo but prepared to call down with unpaired AK and Gushneba seemed fairly loose-passive.

I realise that my river play was a bit wacky but my read on Zozek open-limping was KQ or KJ but I'm more concerned about whether I was too loose pre-flop and whether I should have bet and 3-bet the flop. As a side note I expected gushneba to call my flop bet.

Hold'em FL ($1/$2)
Table "Neverraise" Seat 1 is the button.
Seat 1: HERO ($37.70 in chips)
Seat 2: gushneba ($35 in chips)
Seat 3: Nahoj78 ($40 in chips)
Seat 4: Ceennn ($37.15 in chips)
Seat 5: Zozek76 ($40.90 in chips)
Seat 6: krisk ($36.05 in chips)
gushneba: posts small blind $0.50
Nahoj78: posts big blind $1
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to HERO [7d 5d]
Ceennn: folds
Zozek76: calls $1
krisk: folds
krisk sits out
HERO: calls $1
gushneba: calls $0.50
Nahoj78: checks
----- FLOP ----- [Td 2d Jc]
gushneba: checks
krisk sits back
Nahoj78: checks
Zozek76: checks
HERO: bets $1
gushneba: folds
Nahoj78: raises $2
Zozek76: calls $2
HERO: raises $2
Nahoj78: folds
Zozek76: calls $1
----- TURN ----- [Td 2d Jc][Qd]
Zozek76: checks
HERO: bets $2
Zozek76: calls $2
----- RIVER ----- [Td 2d Jc Qd][Qs]
Zozek76: bets $2
HERO: raises $4
Zozek76: calls $2

----- SHOW DOWN -----
Results in white
HERO: shows [7d 5d] (A Flush, Queen high)
Zozek76: mucks hand [Qh Ac]
HERO collected $22.80 from Main pot
----- SUMMARY -----
Results in white
Total pot $24 Main pot $22.80 Rake $1.20
Board [Td 2d Jc Qd Qs]
Seat 1: HERO (button) showed [7d 5d] and won ($22.80) with A Flush, Queen high
Seat 2: gushneba (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 3: Nahoj78 (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 4: Ceennn folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Zozek76 mucked [Qh Ac]
Seat 6: krisk folded before Flop (didn't bet)
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Old 07-30-2007, 05:45 PM #2 (permalink)  
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 Only semi-close decision to me is river raise
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Old 07-30-2007, 05:53 PM #3 (permalink)  
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Only semi-close decision to me is river raise
so pre-flop and flop were ok? I have no doubts about the turn.

Without any read at-all I guess my river play was bad but given the cards I had (wrongly) put villain on I thought it was marginally +ve
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Old 07-30-2007, 06:04 PM #4 (permalink)  
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 PF is meh but I love those types of hands. Flop's fine if you're going to check bricked turns.
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Old 07-30-2007, 06:09 PM #5 (permalink)  
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PF is meh but I love those types of hands. Flop's fine if you're going to check bricked turns.
Thanks, I wasn't too sure about PF but thought eith 1 limper and on the button it couldnt be too bad.

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Old 07-30-2007, 07:14 PM #6 (permalink)  
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Personally, I don't really care for the preflop limp. A little too loose for me.

It's not worth the raise against a limper. And with only one caller, you are probably not going to get the required implied odds. Maybe with two callers I might limp pf. But with only one, I'm typically passing.
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Old 07-30-2007, 07:29 PM #7 (permalink)  
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Personally, I don't really care for the preflop limp. A little too loose for me.

It's not worth the raise against a limper. And with only one caller, you are probably not going to get the required implied odds. Maybe with two callers I might limp pf. But with only one, I'm typically passing.
I thought that might be the majority opinion.

Having said that, when reviewing my PO stats I found that my biggest profit-makers are OESD and flush draws which is pretty much why I limped the button. Does this arguement hold up?
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Old 07-31-2007, 02:30 AM #8 (permalink)  
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Fold preflop. Having limped, the rest of the hand is fine.
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Old 07-31-2007, 07:34 AM #9 (permalink)  
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Fold preflop. Having limped, the rest of the hand is fine.
If it was 7d8d instead of 5 7 i assume limping the button would be fine?
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Old 07-31-2007, 05:13 PM #10 (permalink)  
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Actually....

Liming with that hand is better. unless he is very tight. I'm raising with 87s against a single limper from the BTN.
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Old 07-31-2007, 08:33 PM #11 (permalink)  
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Actually....

Liming with that hand is better. unless he is very tight. I'm raising with 87s against a single limper from the BTN.
Oh right, so I guesse my call was very 50/50? not too bsd but not exactly optimal. I'll keep that kind of play reserved for super loose-passive games in future.
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