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drtofu66

08-18-2005, 03:54 PM Post subject: Too agressive?

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The only read I have is that SWTAZNCOOL is firing out his reraises during this hand barely without a pause and I have a hunch he's trying to push me off.

Absolute Poker Stage #171760658: Holdem Normal $0.50/$1
Seat 9 - ONETAM $14 in chips
Seat 1 - DEXTERGREEN $38.30 in chips
Seat 2 - TBAUZA $16 in chips
Seat 3 - MRMICHIGAN $11.85 in chips
Seat 4 - LDRUMMEL $25.52 in chips
Seat 5 - DRTOFU $17.25 in chips
Seat 6 - SWTAZNCOOL $29.57 in chips
Seat 7 - CHAYSETILTON $47.35 in chips
Seat 8 - BLIZT $47.75 in chips
*** BLIND [dealer 9] ***
DEXTERGREEN - Post small blind $0.25
TBAUZA - Post big blind $0.50
DRTOFU - Pocket [Qs,As]
MRMICHIGAN - Folds
LDRUMMEL - Calls $0.50
DRTOFU - Raises $0.50 to $1
SWTAZNCOOL - Raises $1 to $1.50
CHAYSETILTON - Folds
BLIZT - Folds
ONETAM - Folds
DEXTERGREEN - Folds
TBAUZA - Calls $1
LDRUMMEL - Folds
DRTOFU - Calls $0.50
*** FLOP [Js,4s,Qd] ***
TBAUZA - Checks
DRTOFU - Bets $0.50
SWTAZNCOOL - Raises $0.50 to $1
TBAUZA - Folds
DRTOFU - Raises $0.50 to $1.50
SWTAZNCOOL - Raises $0.50 to $2
DRTOFU - Calls $0.50
*** TURN [Js,4s,Qd,2c] ***
DRTOFU - Bets $1
SWTAZNCOOL - Raises $1 to $2
DRTOFU - Raises $1 to $3
SWTAZNCOOL - Calls $1
*** RIVER [Js,4s,Qd,2c,5d] ***
do I check/call or bet out here?

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ihategnomes

08-18-2005, 04:01 PM

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Check-raise the flop, Lead the turn and river. If he raises the turn, I re-think my position in the hand.

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chardrian

08-18-2005, 07:28 PM

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I play it the same to the turn. On the turn I call his raise and then check/call down. I'm guessing he has an overpair, JQ, or a set.

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08-18-2005, 07:55 PM

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bet/call the turn and river?

TylerK

08-18-2005, 08:01 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by chardrian

I play it the same to the turn. On the turn I call his raise and then check/call down.

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drtofu66

08-18-2005, 08:54 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by chardrian

I play it the same to the turn. On the turn I call his raise and then check/call down. I'm guessing he has an overpair, JQ, or a set.

I wish I could tell you what he had-- he called my river bet and lost the hand and since it was on Absolute I can't see what he mucked. I'm guessing he was overplaying AK (or maybe KQ) given his PF re-raise.

Thanks for the comments; I overplyaed my draw, even though it was the nut draw. Gotta plug that leak.

ihategnomes

08-18-2005, 09:25 PM

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Can you over play a nut flush draw + TPTK?

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booradly07

08-18-2005, 10:08 PM

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I think you played it right, just check/call the river. Can't lay it down for one bet and you can't raise with him showing so much strength. The only thing I might have done different is just call the turn raise then check/call the river. No reason to get all crazy over 1 BB on a TPTK hand since your flush only has a 20% change of hitting after the turn.

He's either an idiot and you don't need to get every last chip from him now, if he's betting that hard with less than TPTK you'll get the rest in short order. OR, he has you beat and you need to just check it down.

You had nut flush draw on the flop with TPTK, right or wrong I would have thought my hand was good too (or at least good enough to check/call down to the river if you had no reads to make you believe without a doubt he had a set).

TylerK

08-18-2005, 10:10 PM

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I'm stupid as hell and didn't see the flush draw (BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T USE THE CONVERTER MOST LIKELY Y/N) so I also 3-bet the turn and then check/call a non-spade river if he caps.

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booradly07

08-18-2005, 11:27 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TylerK

I'm stupid as hell and didn't see the flush draw (BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T USE THE CONVERTER MOST LIKELY Y/N) so I also 3-bet the turn and then check/call a non-spade river if he caps.

I only have one question TylerK..are you three betting the turn for value and assuming your hand is good in this situaiton most times?

I ask because there is no reason to three bet on a flush draw as you aren't getting an sort of equity edge and the other Q or any other pair to the board could give him a full house if your honestly giving him a reasonable shot at having a set already so your only good outs are limited.

maybe I give to much credit to the opposition but this hand would have me thinking by the time I got raised on the turn after all the early action...

Brad

p.s. I hope no one mind me commenting on the hand historys since I'm still pretty much a newb.

TylerK

08-18-2005, 11:34 PM

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I'm value raising because I often improve by hitting my 12+ outer and I often win unimproved. There's definitely an edge here.

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drtofu66

08-19-2005, 02:49 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TylerK

I'm stupid as hell and didn't see the flush draw (BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T USE THE CONVERTER MOST LIKELY Y/N) so I also 3-bet the turn and then check/call a non-spade river if he caps.

I'd love to use the hand converter but haven't been able to get it to work for me. Is there a tutorial on using it? I cut & pasted the hand history from the "Stage #17894 : Holdem Normal $0.50/$1" line down to the line break for the next hand history and the only output I get is:

Absolute Poker (0 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: is with , .
, MRMICHIGAN folds, CHAYSETILTON folds, BLIZT folds, ONETAM folds, DEXTERGREEN folds, LDRUMMEL folds.
TBAUZA checks, TBAUZA folds.
.
.

Final Pot:

Sorry if I'm being a retard newbie here but what am I doing wrong? I'd really appreciate it if someone could explain how the thing works.

ihategnomes

08-24-2005, 08:47 PM

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Its broken, Tyler, what happened to your converter?

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