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Old 10-28-2005, 10:51 PM     Post subject: Too aggressive or not enough? #1 (permalink)  
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One limper in front of me in a slightly shorthanded average game is why I limped also. I only have 6 hands on the CO who's an 80% V$IP, with no PF raises in those 6 hands.

Looking this over again, I think I should have gone into check/call mode once he 3-bets my turn CR. I beat AA and AK, I lose to KK. I'm not thinking I'm up against 99 or 33 (though I probably should at this level). I don't think he caps the flop with JJ.

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Preflop: Hero is MP1 with K, J.
UTG calls, 1 fold, Hero calls, 1 fold, CO raises, 3 folds, UTG calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (7.40 SB) K, 9, 3 (3 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets, CO raises, UTG folds, Hero 3-bets, CO caps, Hero calls.

Turn: (7.70 BB) J (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets, Hero raises, CO 3-bets, Hero caps, CO calls.

River: (15.70 BB) 7 (2 players)
Hero bets, CO raises, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 19.70 BB
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Old 10-28-2005, 11:04 PM #2 (permalink)  
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What is 80% of 6?
Why did you bet/3 bet the flop?
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Old 10-28-2005, 11:23 PM #3 (permalink)  
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Agree with not 3-betting pre-flop. Particularly if you think he's a loose/passive.

I think CO has an over-played AA/AK, but I think you just have to call the river raise...
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Old 10-28-2005, 11:29 PM #4 (permalink)  
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What is 80% of 6?
Why did you bet/3 bet the flop?
Sorry, it might've been 10 hands. I don't precisely recall.

I thought that lead betting the flop here would be somewhat standard; let him know I have a King if he has QQ or less. The 3-bet-- ugh, I have no excuse. His raise should've told me I was dominated at best. Do you check/call the flop? Then lead the turn and check/call from there?

I get lost with 2 pair, even top 2 pair. I'm sure I'm leaking there.
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Old 10-28-2005, 11:36 PM #5 (permalink)  
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let him know I have a King if he has QQ or less.
Why the hell would you want to do that?
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Old 10-29-2005, 12:44 AM #6 (permalink)  
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let him know I have a King if he has QQ or less.
Why the hell would you want to do that?
I figured I was up against any pocket pair T or above, AK, AQ, AJ, maybe even ATs. And I also stupidly think I'm getting donk-raised when I'm not

Would you have check/called the flop, then bet/called the turn with 2 pair?
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Old 10-29-2005, 12:46 AM #7 (permalink)  
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opps.... I didn't even read pre-flop on my first pass. I so take these things for granted. Anyway, limping KJo in MP after a single limper is pretty horrible. Clear raise or fold. If CO 3-bet us pre-flop is would better define his hand and make post-flop a lot easier.
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Old 10-29-2005, 01:37 AM #8 (permalink)  
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Raise preflop...

I think you overplayed turn and river. You should have called his 3-bet and check called river.

Turn completes str8. not likely for villian to have QT here but at these levels anything can happen.

Flop: What do you think he caps with here.? No less Than TPTK and more often its overpairs two pairs (unlikely) and sets.

Turn: He continues aggression: This is not TPTK anymore, leaving us with two hands that we beat: AA and K9. We loose to KK JJ 99 (33 and QT unlikely though) and split with KJ.

River: if you bet this I think it's a bet/fold and since we can't fold this I prefer check/call.
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I think you overplayed turn and river. You should have called his 3-bet and check called river.
After he caps the flop, what hands do you put him on? I think KJo is doing very well here and a turn cap is clearly called for...

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Hand 1: 65.5647 % 59.50% 06.06% { KhJc }
Hand 2: 34.4353 % 28.37% 06.06% { KK+, 99, 33, AKs, KJs+, AKo, KJo+ }
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