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okiman
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08-06-2008, 06:53 PM
Post subject: Too aggressive again?
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#1 (permalink)
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Straight
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 171
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Again, a hand where I might have been too aggressive for too long after taking the lead.
BB was running 33/8/1.5 (194). The one read I had that was relevant to this hand - I hadn't seen him trap either pre or postflop. I figured the times I was beat by a 10 (or he did decide to trap w/ a big hand given my aggression factor) would be made up by the pps he held and would call a river bet with. Given my reads, I certainly didn't take him for AA, KK, JJ, or a Q (given the preflop flat call, the c/c turn, and c river)
Should I have checked behind here on the river?
PokerStars 0.50/1.00 Hold'em (10 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
Preflop: Hero is Button with 9 , A .
3 folds, MP1 calls, 3 folds, Hero raises, 1 fold, BB calls, MP1 folds.
Flop: (5.50 SB) Q, 9 , Q (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, BB calls.
Turn: (3.75 BB) T (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, BB calls.
River: (5.75 BB) Q (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, BB calls.
Final Pot: 7.75 BB
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DrivingDog
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Full House
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: UK
Posts: 923
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Pretty hard to get called by a worse hand on the river. I check behind.
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"You can fool some of the people all of the time, and those are the ones you want to concentrate on." (George Bush).
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yeah the problem is that when he has 9x you chop, when he has 10x/overpair you lose a bet
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epic
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08-06-2008, 09:50 PM
Post subject: Re: Too aggressive again?
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#4 (permalink)
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Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 60
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If I was a betting man, I'd say you're up against J10 or AK. Anything better raises you on the river.
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okiman
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Straight
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 171
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It was A10 for the better boat.
I am working on toning down the river aggression. Probably my biggest leak.
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KoRnholio
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 2,165
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Some villains will call with any pocket pair on that board, so I don't think it's a terrible bet at all.
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Some days it feels like I've been standing forever, waiting for the bank teller to return so I can cash in all these Sklansky Bucks.
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DrivingDog
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Full House
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: UK
Posts: 923
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by KoRnholio
Some villains will call with any pocket pair on that board, so I don't think it's a terrible bet at all.
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They call with 88- on a QQTT9 board? Bring 'em to me!
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"You can fool some of the people all of the time, and those are the ones you want to concentrate on." (George Bush).
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KoRnholio
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 2,165
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QQQT9 board, big difference 
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Some days it feels like I've been standing forever, waiting for the bank teller to return so I can cash in all these Sklansky Bucks.
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DrivingDog
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Full House
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: UK
Posts: 923
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by KoRnholio
QQQT9 board, big difference |
Oops, my mistake!
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"You can fool some of the people all of the time, and those are the ones you want to concentrate on." (George Bush).
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Chopper
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Straight Flush
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: St. Louis, MO
Posts: 4,255
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what did you change your note to after this?
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LHE is a game where your skill keeps you breakeven until you hit your rush of random BS.
Nothing beats flopping quads while dropping a duece!
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okiman
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Straight
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 171
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I added to my notes (in shorthand to save space) that he was afraid of a preflop raiser out of position with a question mark added. It's my indication that he won't (question mark since it's the first time I saw it) lead or raise w/ hands that are beaten by premium holdings when oop, but will c/c down w/ good but not great hands.
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Chopper
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Straight Flush
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: St. Louis, MO
Posts: 4,255
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maybe this is where i am wrong. but, i would have noted...
"wont raise for thin value on safeish rivers"
meaning...when he raises me in the future, take it seriously.
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LHE is a game where your skill keeps you breakeven until you hit your rush of random BS.
Nothing beats flopping quads while dropping a duece!
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