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Old 01-04-2007, 08:43 PM     Post subject: Thoughts on this line? #1 (permalink)  

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Wondering what you guys think of this hand. Granted I'm fairly new to this forum and this usually isn't the type of hands I'll get ovely involved in. Villian in OTB and it folded to him 1/2 6 max.

No real reads fairly new to the table but from what I've seen from the villian he was pretty much a LAG (which was confirmed later). Generally I hate people who open limp OTB and will get a little aggressive with them if I catch part of a flop and there's no broadway cards or A's there. Usually I see people do it fairly with a broadway card or A with no kicker. HPFAP mentions something about it being something only "tourists" do.

My figuring was if I get a safe turn card and I am actually ahead I was going to make him pay the max if I was ahead and see if he really had anything on the turn. Should I have capped the flop and lead the turn?

Overall I was hoping for a free SD here although when he bet I had a feeling the river helped him.

Hero has in the BB
Villian called $1
SB folded.
Hero checked.
Dealing flop.
Board cards
Hero bet $1
Villian Raised
Hero called $1
Dealing turn.
Hero checked.
Villian bet $2
Hero Raises
Villian called $2
Dealing river.
Hero checked.
Villian bet $2
Hero called $2
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Old 01-04-2007, 08:58 PM #2 (permalink)  
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b/f the turn
c/f the river

You really don't beat anything by the river. Any bd flush, 45, JT (which is about the only hand I could ever see anyone limping on the button)

I also do not get the idea of the turn c/r. Explain that one to me.
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Old 01-04-2007, 11:27 PM #3 (permalink)  
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c/f the turn your T is probably beat by a bigger one...
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Old 01-05-2007, 04:58 AM #4 (permalink)  

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I also do not get the idea of the turn c/r. Explain that one to me.
Honestly, I felt I was ahead (which I actually was) and if he had me beat he probably would've let me known. Villian was entering almost every pot and playing real aggressive on the flop almost always. He would usually get more cautious on the turn. In theory most flops miss most hands so I wasn't giving him credit for a ten here. I was figuring him for overs or an Ax, in which case I wanted to make him put in the max to see the river if he was going to outdraw me.

Villian had an AJo here.
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Old 01-05-2007, 05:12 AM     Post subject: Re: Thoughts on this line? #5 (permalink)  
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No real reads fairly new to the table
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Villian was entering almost every pot and playing real aggressive on the flop almost always. He would usually get more cautious on the turn
Which one was it?

With no reads I stick by my line

You need to bet this turn because he'll tell you if you're beat by raising and if you're ahead by calling. I think if the turn goes b/c then the river has to go c/c. If he raises your turn bet I'd fold. So what if he outplayed you, he made a really good play. The c/r is a spew because getting 3bet on this board sucks.
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Old 01-05-2007, 06:00 AM     Post subject: Re: Thoughts on this line? #6 (permalink)  

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Which one was it?
Well my HUD comes up after 25 hands, it came up a few hands after this. Prior to that he was in just about every pot so I guess it depends on how you view it.

I will agree however that the CR is entering the spewing zone. Thanks for the input.
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Old 01-05-2007, 03:16 PM #7 (permalink)  
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I call down with a read, but raising the turn is bad, and I don't like 3-betting the flop either. The only reasonable hands you beat that raise the flop are T4, 45, and 44-99.
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