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Mony B
Old 10-10-2004, 05:49 PM     Post subject: is there anything at all? #1 (permalink)  
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ok i looked over and over at this hand, and i need someone elses eyes to glaze apon this horrable beat.

#Game No : 1043405094
***** Hand History for Game 1043405094 *****
$100 PL Omaha Hi - Sunday, October 10, 13:37:41 EDT 2004
Table Table 15262 (Real Money)
Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 3: raystraw ( $72.55 )
Seat 2: megusta ( $33.5 )
Seat 10: Ruedi ( $205.9 )
Seat 6: gothelot ( $198.75 )
Seat 7: runningstar ( $75.65 )
Seat 1: SREEDER ( $191.25 )
Seat 4: rudywine ( $55 )
Seat 5: bandit100 ( $94 )
Seat 9: NHSHEP ( $95 )
Seat 8: QUIT_IT ( $98 )
SREEDER posts small blind [$1].
megusta posts big blind [$2].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to megusta [ 8d 9d 8h 9h ]
raystraw folds.
rudywine raises [$4].
bandit100 did not respond in time.
bandit100 folds.
gothelot calls [$4].
runningstar calls [$4].
QUIT_IT folds.
NHSHEP folds.
Ruedi calls [$4].
SREEDER calls [$3].
megusta calls [$2].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 9s, Ah, Ad ]
SREEDER checks.
megusta checks.
rudywine bets [$22.8].
gothelot folds.
runningstar folds.
Ruedi folds.
SREEDER folds.
megusta is all-In.
rudywine calls [$6.7].
** Dealing Turn ** [ Qd ]
** Dealing River ** [ 7d ]
rudywine shows [ Qh, 6d, Qc, Ac ] a full house, Aces full of queens.
megusta doesn't show [ 8d, 9d, 8h, 9h ] a full house, Nines full of aces.
rudywine wins $80 from the main pot with a full house, Aces full of queens.


what else more could have i done??
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Old 10-10-2004, 06:04 PM #2 (permalink)  
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You always have to be aware that boats made by low pocket pairs in Omaha arn't as strong as their counterparts in Hold 'em becuase there's a greater chance the other guy holds an A and an x(x pairs the board) or the bigger pair. The situation is hard to get out off but I just run a good rule of thumb not to over bet these hands.

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Old 10-10-2004, 06:21 PM #3 (permalink)  
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Omaha High is about the Nuts.

Wth that AA on the board, you can almost be assured you hand won't be good on the turn/river if anything falls.

This is a fairly typical happening when you make the small end of a boat.

Why the check on the flop?
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Old 10-11-2004, 10:12 AM #4 (permalink)  
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 In Omaha there are many hands that beat you hand,
any Ax
pair of queens

Depending on my knowledge of the other player I would either fold or call the flop
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Old 10-11-2004, 04:45 PM #5 (permalink)  
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Also with the amount of money you have there is nothing you can do. A check/raise there doesn't help b/c your AI only costs him $6 after he just bet $22. When you don't have that much money and you're gonna put it all in the pot then come out betting.
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Old 10-11-2004, 04:48 PM #6 (permalink)  
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Old 12-16-2004, 01:56 AM     Post subject: thank you #7 (permalink)  
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thank you Fnord for that very helpfull hint on playing omaha lol. Since this have learned that this was not that bad of a beat and i was stupid. Live, Learn, and then get how to play omaha.
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Old 12-16-2004, 01:58 AM #8 (permalink)  
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He means Omaha involves allota luck
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Old 12-16-2004, 02:37 PM #9 (permalink)  
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Triptanes
He means Omaha involves allota luck
But not really. I play a lot of O8. In this game, if you've got a great draw, like the nut flush draw and 7 people in the hand, that's a HUGE HUGE overlay. Even moreso if there was a raise preflop. The key is being able to recognize those situations and extract the most value from them possible.
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Old 12-16-2004, 03:08 PM #10 (permalink)  
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Omaha does involve some luck, but it's not ruled by it. It's just that people don't understand what hands are likely to hold up. If you see a high board pair - higher than whatever trips you've made - and your opponent is calling or raising you, he already has at least a set. His outs to make a better boat than yours are through the roof because he's got three other cards in his hand that may not include any pairs, plus the turn gives him another card that isn't part of your trips. So he's got one out for quads, 9 outs on the turn to make a higher boat, and 12 outs by the river for same. Yeah he's a dog to your low boat, but not much.

To me Omaha is a game of betting when you're on the right end of that equation - when there's a pair of aces out, you already have made a boat with one of your other cards, and when the other guy has a lower set to go with the aces and thinks he's invincible. It's not all that different from people who are still learning hold 'em and think two pair is good when there's a pair on the board, and they've paired an undercard. They just don't understand the likelihood that their hand is already beat, or will be very soon.
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you won't understand what a bitch counterfeting is until you've played omaha
 
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hypermegachi
you won't understand what a bitch counterfeting is until you've played omaha
A "bitch counterfeiting?" Is that different than a regular one? LOL

I got somewhat lucky in that the guy who runs my local cardroom used to play Omaha (and HE and other games, but mostly Omaha) professionally. He placed in the top 10 in one of the O8 events in 2002 at the USPC.
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