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dalecooper
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11-01-2005, 08:02 PM
Post subject: Is this terrible? can't get my mind off the results
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4-of-a-Kind
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Playing some 1/2 limit yesterday evening to occupy my mind during the boring stretches of a MTT. Atypically for this level, there is a guy a couple seats after me that is loose, aggressive, and tricky. He calls a lot of raises, check-raises a lot, plays position well, and is up big for his session. I am annoyed by him and thinking of changing tables, but haven't done so yet.
I get AK sooted and fire out a raise. He calls, again, and everyone else folds.
Flop misses me completely and I am out of position. I check, he checks. The board is something like: T63 rainbow.
The turn is a blank that doesn't pair the board. I check, he bets, I raise... he re-raises. Hmm. I call.
River is a blank. I check, he bets, I can't swallow my curiosity and call. He shows...
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Fnord
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I really hate your flop + turn line. On the flop you often have the best hand. As played, you're looking to catch a bluff.
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dalecooper
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That's what I'm trying to figure out. I never play the flop that way against, oh, 99% of players. I knew as I checked that I had the best hand - probably. I basically took a totally unconventional approach to the hand because this guy was check-raising and regular-raising so much I felt like I was going to end up throwing the hand away regardless of what he had, if I missed. I'm reasonably certain that his tactics were to call raises with any two cards and then go on the attack against the pre-flop raiser as long as there was no ace on the board. It was working pretty well for him, too. What do you think is a good counter for this kind of thing? Just fire your regular cont. bet and then call down his raise and bets on later streets? If you miss all the way to the river, do you call a big bet there and hope your high cards hold up?
I don't have any problem with this kind of thing in no limit, but in limit I find it befuddling. Maybe I should have just switched tables when I realized how much of a pain he was going to be.
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Fnord
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Originally Posted by dalecooper
I'm reasonably certain that his tactics were to call raises with any two cards and then go on the attack against the pre-flop raiser as long as there was no ace on the board. It was working pretty well for him, too. What do you think is a good counter for this kind of thing?
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Check/call a lot. Don't get into a chip tossing contest without the goods.
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poskid_1982
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[quote="FnordCheck/call a lot. Don't get into a chip tossing contest without the goods.[/quote]
Especially on the turn and river...why c/r? At this point he's betting any pair and you're behind...More than likely he'll call you down from what you said about him with anything resembling a pair.
As played on the flop, I prefer bet/fold the turn and probably check/call the river...Not sure about river but these types of hands confuse me a lot come river time.
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Superb play sir...I always call 20% of my stack off with a gutshot draw. Excuse me while I race for my wallet.
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Fnord
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Originally Posted by poskid_1982
As played on the flop, I prefer bet/fold the turn
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If he's just floating around, I don't mind check/calling the big streets. Bet/fold lines only work against predictable opponents.
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