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drtofu66

01-25-2006, 02:14 PM Post subject: Ten AK hands. Too weak? Too aggressive?

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Hand 1:
Villain is 21%/2.67%/0.57 over 75 hands.

I raise the turn because MP1 is hanging around donating. If it's HU do you just call the turn against this rock?

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Preflop: Hero is MP3 with K

, A

.
UTG calls, 1 fold, MP1 calls, 1 fold, Hero raises, 2 folds, SB 3-bets, 1 fold, UTG folds, MP1 calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (11 SB) K

, J

, 3

(3 players)
SB bets, MP1 calls, Hero raises, SB calls, MP1 calls.

Turn: (8.50 BB) 2

(3 players)
SB bets, MP1 calls, Hero raises, SB calls, MP1 calls.

River: (14.50 BB) 8

(3 players)
SB bets, MP1 folds, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 16.50 BB

Hand 2:
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Preflop: Hero is SB with K

, A

.
4 folds, MP3 calls, 2 folds, Hero raises, 1 fold, MP3 calls.

Flop: (5 SB) 8

, 8

, T

(2 players)
Hero bets, MP3 calls.

Turn: (3.50 BB) 4

(2 players)
Hero checks, MP3 bets, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 4.50 BB

Hand 3:
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Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with A

, K

. UTG+1 posts a blind of $0.50.
1 fold, UTG+1 (poster) checks, Hero raises, MP1 calls, 2 folds, CO 3-bets, 2 folds, BB calls, UTG+1 folds, Hero calls, MP1 calls.

Flop: (13.50 SB) 9

, 2

, K

(4 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, MP1 calls, CO calls, BB calls.

Turn: (8.75 BB) Q

(4 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, MP1 calls, CO raises, BB calls, Hero calls, MP1 calls.

River: (16.75 BB) 5

(4 players)
BB checks, Hero checks, MP1 checks, CO bets, BB calls, Hero calls, MP1 calls.

Final Pot: 20.75 BB

Hand 4:
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Preflop: Hero is BB with A

, K

.
1 fold, UTG+1 calls, 2 folds, MP3 raises, 3 folds, Hero 3-bets, UTG+1 calls, MP3 calls.

Flop: (9.50 SB) K

, T

, 6

(3 players)
Hero bets, UTG+1 calls, MP3 raises, Hero 3-bets, UTG+1 calls, MP3 caps, Hero calls, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: (10.75 BB) A

(3 players)
Hero bets, UTG+1 calls, MP3 raises, Hero 3-bets, UTG+1 calls, MP3 calls $0.63 (All-In).

River: (19.38 BB) 4

(3 players, 1 all-in)
Hero bets, UTG+1 calls.

Final Pot: 21.38 BB

Hand 5:
Villain is 24%/6%/2 over 34 hands that I have

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Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with A

, K

.
UTG raises, Hero 3-bets, 7 folds, UTG calls.

Flop: (7.50 SB) 6

, 2

, 3

(2 players)
UTG bets, Hero calls.

Turn: (4.75 BB) 5

(2 players)
UTG bets, Hero calls.

River: (6.75 BB) 8

(2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: 6.75 BB

Hand 6:

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Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K

, A

.
1 fold, UTG+1 raises, 2 folds, Hero 3-bets, 1 fold, CO calls, 3 folds, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: (10.50 SB) 7

, 2

, 9

(3 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets, CO folds, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: (6.25 BB) T

(2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets, UTG+1 calls.

River: (8.25 BB) 7

(2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: 8.25 BB

Hand 7:
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Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with K

, A

.
1 fold, Hero raises, 1 fold, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, 3 folds, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (10 SB) 4

, 2

, T

(5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets, MP1 calls, MP2 folds, SB calls, BB calls.

Turn: (7 BB) 7

(4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets, MP1 calls, SB calls, BB folds.

River: (10 BB) 7

(3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, MP1 bets, SB calls, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 12 BB

Hand 8:
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Preflop: Hero is MP3 with A

, K

.
2 folds, UTG+2 calls, 2 folds, Hero raises, 1 fold, Button calls, SB calls, 1 fold, UTG+2 calls.

Flop: (9 SB) Q

, 2

, T

(4 players)
SB checks, UTG+2 checks, Hero bets, Button calls, SB calls, UTG+2 calls.

Turn: (6.50 BB) 4

(4 players)
SB checks, UTG+2 checks, Hero checks, Button checks.

River: (6.50 BB) T

(4 players)
SB checks, UTG+2 checks, Hero checks, Button checks.

Final Pot: 6.50 BB

Hand 9:
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Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A

, K

.
UTG calls, 2 folds, MP1 calls, Hero raises, 3 folds, BB 3-bets, UTG calls, MP1 calls, Hero caps, BB calls, UTG calls, MP1 calls.

Flop: (16.50 SB) 9

, 4

, T

(5 players)
BB bets, UTG raises, MP1 calls, Hero folds, BB calls.

Turn: (11.25 BB) T

(4 players)
BB bets, UTG raises, MP1 calls, BB calls.

River: (17.25 BB) A

(4 players)
BB bets, UTG calls, MP1 folds.

Final Pot: 19.25 BB

Hand 10:
Villain is 58%/0%/0.24 over 75 hands

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Preflop: Hero is Button with K

, A

.
3 folds, MP2 calls, 2 folds, Hero raises, 2 folds, MP2 calls.

Flop: (5.50 SB) 9

, 9

(2 players)
MP2 checks, Hero bets, MP2 calls.

Turn: (3.75 BB) T

(2 players)
MP2 checks, Hero checks.

River: (3.75 BB) 8

(2 players)
MP2 checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: 3.75 BB

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KoRnholio

01-25-2006, 03:02 PM

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1- maybe value raise the river

2- standard

3- standard

4- I'd call down after getting raised on the turn

5- He looks passive, I'd probably fold the turn

6- that's my usual line, but I don't think the turn bet has great expectations

7- check/fold the turn

8- Good line, though with that board somone is likely to have hit. A check wouldn't be a bad idea

9- standard

10- uber passive villain.. hmm. I might find a bet on the turn if it looks like he'll call down any ace (or worse) on that board. What was his WTSD%/W$@SD?

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euphoricism

01-25-2006, 06:52 PM

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1. Donky goin overboard with his KQ. Raise the river.

2. I bet/fold the turn, too easy for him to be drawing to an overcard.

3. Pots too big to fold. Cry call down. Good

4. Good

5. Meh. I think I dump this on the turn, he's probably got 44-99

6. Fine

7. Unpaired ace out of position sure sucks, don't it? Not much you can do here. You're inviting the bluff, but you also don't beat pretty much anything that bets. Once the SB calls the river you're obviously not winning with A high.

8. Well, you lost the least

You have a gutshot + 2 overcards. I bet this turn, mostly trying to buy the button so I can check behind if/when I miss.

9. Good fold

10. Bet the turn, he's probably drawing to tainted outs. DEFINITELY bet the river if he checks to you twice...

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drtofu66

01-25-2006, 07:21 PM

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Regarding hand 1: I actually was wondering if I was being the donk on that hand. Glad to see that others found his play a little misleading also. Him smooth calling my raises on every turn smelled a little off and I thought I was behind which is why I just called the river. I was beginning to think he had JJ or KK (maybe KJ). Had SB stayed in fon the river bet I probably would have raised again. He did have AA and after looking at it from his perspective, I wonder if you all would comment on HIS play with AA on that hand. To me that's an automatic flop-3-bet with AA and that board. He didn't charge me extra to hit another K (maybe he's factoring in the idea that I might have KK or KJ) but after looking at that hand I think he managed to extract the most money from the hand with SB being the calling station. I think SB dumps if it's 2 bets to call to him and that's why he just called my raises instead of 3-betting. The pot's the same size if he's ahead or behind, only he has to donate more to the pot if he's behind.

Is his play good?

euphoricism

01-25-2006, 09:31 PM

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No, his play is quite bad. As you said, he doesn't protect his hand whatsoever, and he's giving you every opportunity to draw out cheap. People who bet/call bet/call bet/call are almost always on top pair. He was, wasn't he

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euphoricism

01-25-2006, 09:32 PM

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The problem with betting the river in the last hand is that you're only getting called by a better hand. He's quite unlikely to call with ace high (hes much more likely to bet with it.) and you don't beat much else.

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drtofu66

01-25-2006, 10:07 PM

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I'm a noob when it comes to doing more detailed functions of PT. Is there any way in PT to look only at the hands that I bet and get raised on the turn when I am only holding TP? At Party .5/1 I find that it's often someone slowplaying a set/straight or someone having hit their set or kicker on the turn-- most cases where I'm pretty much drawing dead; of course I don't remember the times when it was a donk raise and I take the pot, so I wanted to look only at these hands. I wonder if my calling down with TP is a leak. I did check the PT forum but don't see any references to this question.

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