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Old 12-27-2004, 03:55 PM     Post subject: tear me apart, I need it #1 (permalink)  
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I apologize for the format again, but the converter just does not like PR . Thanks in advance for any advice, guys.


Hand 1

Texas Hold'em $0.50-$1{spam link}(real money),{spam link}hand{spam link}#528,016,890

Table Jalalabad,{spam link}27 Dec 2004 12:38 AM


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Seat{spam link}8:{spam link}killjoy26{spam link}($69.65{spam link}in{spam link}chips)

Seat{spam link}9:{spam link}Gibeoj{spam link}($20{spam link}in{spam link}chips)

Seat{spam link}10:{spam link}shooter0510{spam link}($21.80{spam link}in{spam link}chips)

ANTES/BLINDS
Fiasco posts blind ($0.25), BobLHead posts blind ($0.50), Gibeoj posts blind ($0.50).

PRE-FLOP
xAdam22x folds, TheScofflaw folds, Antonescu folds, hc8601 folds, xbruticusx calls $0.50, killjoy26 bets $1, Gibeoj calls $0.50, shooter0510 calls $1, Fiasco calls $0.75, BobLHead folds, xbruticusx calls $0.50.

FLOP [board cards 8S,3D,5D ]
Fiasco checks, xbruticusx bets $0.50, killjoy26 calls $0.50, Gibeoj calls $0.50, shooter0510 calls $0.50, Fiasco folds.

TURN [board cards 8S,3D,5D,9H ]
xbruticusx checks, killjoy26 bets $1, Gibeoj calls $1, shooter0510 calls $1, xbruticusx bets $2, killjoy26 calls $1, Gibeoj calls $1, shooter0510 calls $1.

RIVER [board cards 8S,3D,5D,9H,5S ]
xbruticusx bets $1, killjoy26 folds, Gibeoj calls $1, shooter0510 folds.

SHOWDOWN
xbruticusx shows [ AH,5H ]
Gibeoj mucks cards [ KC,8D ]
xbruticusx wins $16.65.


Hand 2

Texas Hold'em $0.50-$1{spam link}(real money),{spam link}hand{spam link}#528,071,066

Table Jalalabad,{spam link}27 Dec 2004 01:05 AM



Seat{spam link}1:{spam link}Fiasco{spam link}($101.35{spam link}in{spam link}chips)

Seat{spam link}2:{spam link}NeAnDERthal0{spam link}($19.65{spam link}in{spam link}chips)

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Seat{spam link}6:{spam link}Gibel1{spam link}($141.35{spam link}in{spam link}chips)

Seat{spam link}7:{spam link}xbruticusx{spam link}[9S,KS]{spam link}($50.30{spam link}in{spam link}chips)

Seat{spam link}8:{spam link}JMM21{spam link}($6.50{spam link}in{spam link}chips)

Seat{spam link}9:{spam link}Gibeoj{spam link}($27.25{spam link}in{spam link}chips)

Seat{spam link}10:{spam link}shooter0510{spam link}($6.50{spam link}in{spam link}chips)

ANTES/BLINDS
Gibeoj posts blind ($0.25), shooter0510 posts blind ($0.50).

PRE-FLOP
Fiasco folds, NeAnDERthal0 calls $0.50, xAdam22x folds, TheScofflaw folds, Antonescu folds, Gibel1 folds, xbruticusx calls $0.50, JMM21 folds, Gibeoj folds, shooter0510 checks.

FLOP [board cards 10S,3D,9H ]
shooter0510 checks, NeAnDERthal0 checks, xbruticusx bets $0.50, shooter0510 calls $0.50, NeAnDERthal0 calls $0.50.

TURN [board cards 10S,3D,9H,KD ]
shooter0510 checks, NeAnDERthal0 checks, xbruticusx bets $1, shooter0510 folds, NeAnDERthal0 calls $1.

RIVER [board cards 10S,3D,9H,KD,10H ]
NeAnDERthal0 checks, xbruticusx bets $1, NeAnDERthal0 calls $1.

SHOWDOWN
xbruticusx shows [ 9S,KS ]
NeAnDERthal0 shows [ KC,QC ]
NeAnDERthal0 wins $6.90.


Hand 3

exas Hold'em $0.50-$1{spam link}(real money),{spam link}hand{spam link}#528,095,565

Table Jalalabad,{spam link}27 Dec 2004 01:18 AM



Seat{spam link}1:{spam link}hizo1{spam link}($100{spam link}in{spam link}chips)

Seat{spam link}2:{spam link}sonofdad{spam link}($42{spam link}in{spam link}chips)

Seat{spam link}4:{spam link}TheScofflaw{spam link}($48{spam link}in{spam link}chips)

Seat{spam link}5:{spam link}xshonuff{spam link}($7.50{spam link}in{spam link}chips)

Seat{spam link}6:{spam link}luckOverSkil{spam link}($2.40{spam link}in{spam link}chips)

Seat{spam link}7:{spam link}xbruticusx{spam link}[KH,KS]{spam link}($44.55{spam link}in{spam link}chips)

Seat{spam link}8:{spam link}JMM21{spam link}($3.20{spam link}in{spam link}chips)

Seat{spam link}9:{spam link}Gibeoj{spam link}($30.10{spam link}in{spam link}chips)

Seat{spam link}10:{spam link}shooter0510{spam link}($3{spam link}in{spam link}chips)

ANTES/BLINDS
TheScofflaw posts blind ($0.25), xshonuff posts blind ($0.50), hizo1 posts blind ($0.50).

PRE-FLOP
luckOverSkil folds, xbruticusx bets $1, JMM21 folds, Gibeoj calls $1, shooter0510 folds, hizo1 folds, sonofdad folds, TheScofflaw calls $0.75, xshonuff calls $0.50.

FLOP [board cards 8D,8S,6H ]
TheScofflaw checks, xshonuff checks, xbruticusx bets $0.50, Gibeoj calls $0.50, TheScofflaw folds, xshonuff calls $0.50.

TURN [board cards 8D,8S,6H,6D ]
xshonuff checks, xbruticusx bets $1, Gibeoj bets $2, xshonuff folds, xbruticusx bets $2, Gibeoj bets $2, xbruticusx calls $1.

RIVER [board cards 8D,8S,6H,6D,5D ]
xbruticusx checks, Gibeoj bets $1, xbruticusx calls $1.

SHOWDOWN
Gibeoj shows [ 8C,7C ]
xbruticusx mucks cards [ KH,KS ]
Gibeoj wins $15.20.


Hand 4

Texas Hold'em $0.50-$1{spam link}(real money),{spam link}hand{spam link}#528,102,391

Table Butare,{spam link}27 Dec 2004 01:22 AM



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Seat{spam link}10:{spam link}Fiasco{spam link}($93.40{spam link}in{spam link}chips)

ANTES/BLINDS
Foote31 posts blind ($0.25), xbruticusx posts blind ($0.50).

PRE-FLOP
dozerstd folds, Scheppy folds, breon calls $0.50, Norsat calls $0.50, crex83 calls $0.50, NewSlim0820 folds, Fiasco calls $0.50, tommyraf folds, Foote31 calls $0.25, xbruticusx checks.

FLOP [board cards 9D,3C,JC ]
Foote31 bets $0.50, xbruticusx bets $1, breon calls $1, Norsat calls $1, crex83 folds, Fiasco folds, Foote31 calls $0.50.

TURN [board cards 9D,3C,JC,7H ]
Foote31 checks, xbruticusx bets $1, breon calls $1, Norsat calls $1, Foote31 folds.

RIVER [board cards 9D,3C,JC,7H,QS ]
xbruticusx bets $1, breon folds, Norsat folds.

SHOWDOWN
xbruticusx wins $10.50


Hand 5


Texas Hold'em $0.50-$1{spam link}(real money),{spam link}hand{spam link}#528,194,123

Table New York,{spam link}27 Dec 2004 02:18 AM



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Seat{spam link}9:{spam link}BigMaddy{spam link}($25.80{spam link}in{spam link}chips)

Seat{spam link}10:{spam link}NE Nosefaces{spam link}($26.35{spam link}in{spam link}chips)

ANTES/BLINDS
Yippi posts blind ($0.25), Euronymous posts blind ($0.50).

PRE-FLOP
YouEnjoyMe calls $0.50, ary407 calls $0.50, xAdam22x folds, BigMaddy folds, NE Nosefaces calls $0.50, slinkier calls $0.50, xbruticusx calls $0.50, Newt-Fancier folds, Yippi folds, Euronymous checks.

FLOP [board cards 7D,3D,10H ]
Euronymous bets $0.50, YouEnjoyMe calls $0.50, ary407 folds, NE Nosefaces folds, slinkier calls $0.50, xbruticusx bets $1, Euronymous calls $0.50, YouEnjoyMe calls $0.50, slinkier folds.

TURN [board cards 7D,3D,10H,4S ]
Euronymous checks, YouEnjoyMe checks, xbruticusx bets $1, Euronymous calls $1, YouEnjoyMe calls $1.

RIVER [board cards 7D,3D,10H,4S,KC ]
Euronymous checks, YouEnjoyMe checks, xbruticusx bets $1, Euronymous folds, YouEnjoyMe calls $1.

SHOWDOWN
xbruticusx shows [ 8D,AD ]
YouEnjoyMe shows [ 10S,QS ]
YouEnjoyMe wins $11.20.


Hand 6

Texas Hold'em $0.50-$1{spam link}(real money),{spam link}hand{spam link}#528,217,865

Table New York,{spam link}27 Dec 2004 02:36 AM



Seat{spam link}1:{spam link}levin_money{spam link}($15.25{spam link}in{spam link}chips)

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Seat{spam link}3:{spam link}Newt-Fancier{spam link}($31.70{spam link}in{spam link}chips)

Seat{spam link}4:{spam link}Yippi{spam link}($37.90{spam link}in{spam link}chips)

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Seat{spam link}8:{spam link}xAdam22x{spam link}($38.35{spam link}in{spam link}chips)

Seat{spam link}9:{spam link}BigMaddy{spam link}($22{spam link}in{spam link}chips)

Seat{spam link}10:{spam link}NE Nosefaces{spam link}($46.25{spam link}in{spam link}chips)

ANTES/BLINDS
levin_money posts blind ($0.25), xbruticusx posts blind ($0.50).

PRE-FLOP
Newt-Fancier folds, Yippi folds, ironstrees calls $0.50, YouEnjoyMe folds, ary407 calls $0.50, xAdam22x calls $0.50, BigMaddy calls $0.50, NE Nosefaces calls $0.50, levin_money calls $0.25, xbruticusx checks.

FLOP [board cards 7D,6H,QH ]
levin_money checks, xbruticusx checks, ironstrees checks, ary407 checks, xAdam22x bets $0.50, BigMaddy folds, NE Nosefaces calls $0.50, levin_money calls $0.50, xbruticusx calls $0.50, ironstrees calls $0.50, ary407 folds.

TURN [board cards 7D,6H,QH,5H ]
levin_money checks, xbruticusx bets $1, ironstrees calls $1, xAdam22x folds, NE Nosefaces bets $2, levin_money folds, xbruticusx calls $1, ironstrees calls $1.

RIVER [board cards 7D,6H,QH,5H,5C ]
xbruticusx checks, ironstrees checks, NE Nosefaces bets $1, xbruticusx calls $1, ironstrees folds.

SHOWDOWN
NE Nosefaces shows [ 7H,QC ]
xbruticusx shows [ 8C,4C ]
xbruticusx wins $13.30.


Hand 7

Texas Hold'em $0.50-$1{spam link}(real money),{spam link}hand{spam link}#528,282,599

Table Paramaribo,{spam link}27 Dec 2004 03:31 AM



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Seat{spam link}10:{spam link}xbruticusx{spam link}[KC,2C]{spam link}($37.45{spam link}in{spam link}chips)

ANTES/BLINDS
Chipper010 posts blind ($0.25), Janatrana posts blind ($0.50).

PRE-FLOP
xbruticusx calls $0.50, scan tron folds, SMOKEY0420 folds, xAdam22x bets $1, BobLHead folds, Travlar folds, Godhawk folds, Sir Bill 71 folds, Chipper010 calls $0.75, Janatrana calls $0.50, xbruticusx calls $0.50.

FLOP [board cards 6D,7C,5C ]
Chipper010 checks, Janatrana checks, xbruticusx bets $0.50, xAdam22x folds, Chipper010 calls $0.50, Janatrana calls $0.50.

TURN [board cards 6D,7C,5C,8S ]
Chipper010 bets $1, Janatrana calls $1, xbruticusx bets $2, Chipper010 bets $2, Janatrana calls $2, xbruticusx calls $1.

RIVER [board cards 6D,7C,5C,8S,7H ]
Chipper010 bets $1, Janatrana calls $1, xbruticusx folds.

SHOWDOWN
Chipper010 shows [ KH,9S ]
Janatrana shows [ 9H,5H ]
Chipper010 wins $7.85, Janatrana wins $7.85.
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Old 12-27-2004, 04:31 PM #2 (permalink)  
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I'm no expert but it looks like you play kinda like me. Here goes.

1) Don't be calling with this. With all those early folds, I'd consider this a raise-or-fold. Cf. the raging Axs debate You have nothing interesting on the flop, had no business continuing, and got lucky.
2) mmm... Kxs the only hand more controversial than Axs -- except this is straightable, so maybe it doesn't count. The dreaded 3pair -- will kill you every time. Check-fold the river as T was top pair.
3) 3pair again. Run.
4) BB special flopped nice but didn't pan out. But then it sorta did. Now you know where all the clubs were -- breon and Norsat were holding them !!
5) I consider betting out a flush draw a kind of obvious play. You could probably have got to see the turn and river more cheaply. Also, don't you WANT all those people in there if you hit?
6) You had the odds and you hit it. It's a nice feeling, isn't it?
7) You had the odds and missed it. It's a yucky feeling, isn't it? I disagree with the turn bet, here. You're clearly way behind and need a cheap river.
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Old 12-27-2004, 04:32 PM #3 (permalink)  
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Hand 1: Fold pre-flop, fail that raise. Open limping once you get past UTGish at a full table is a no no. I would check/raise the flop and go from there. I don't get the turn check/raise.
Hand 2: Pre-flop is close, table must have real bad players and the limper MUST be loose (preferably pre-flop aggressive so you KNOW he's limping crap "You have crap, I have better crap and position; let's play poker!") to limp K9s after only one limper. Heck, consider raising. Looks good from there.
Hand 3: Call down the turn raise without a read. You're not good here 50%+
Hand 4: Well played
Hand 5: Sometimes I raise pre-flop here. Check the river, you have showdown value over a busted draw.
Hand 6: Flop call is close. Well played.
Hand 7: Fold pre-flop. I tend to check/raise the flop. The turn raise is silly.
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Old 12-27-2004, 04:36 PM #4 (permalink)  
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Holy shit it looks like my limit instincts aren't as bad as I thought...
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Old 12-27-2004, 04:37 PM #5 (permalink)  
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5) I consider betting out a flush draw a kind of obvious play. You could probably have got to see the turn and river more cheaply. Also, don't you WANT all those people in there if you hit?
I rather like winning a flush draw here and there unimproved.
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Old 12-27-2004, 04:46 PM #6 (permalink)  
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I should have prefaced with this... I have been adding Kxs and Axs to my limping hands when im playing noticeably loose tables. Bad Idea?
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Old 12-27-2004, 04:47 PM #7 (permalink)  
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I should have prefaced with this... I have been adding Kxs and Axs to my limping hands when im playing noticeably loose tables. Bad Idea?
Depends on how many limpers, your postion, who is limping and how big your X is.
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Old 12-27-2004, 04:58 PM #8 (permalink)  
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Hand 1: Fold pre-flop, fail that raise. Open limping once you get past UTGish at a full table is a no no. I would check/raise the flop and go from there. I don't get the turn check/raise.
So youre saying that past MP theres little that you won't raise with?
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Old 12-27-2004, 04:59 PM #9 (permalink)  
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5) I consider betting out a flush draw a kind of obvious play. You could probably have got to see the turn and river more cheaply. Also, don't you WANT all those people in there if you hit?
I rather like winning a flush draw here and there unimproved.
Quite right, that's always a relief.

But that didn't strike me as realistic in this hand. Hero did not raise PF, and it was opened and called by others. All of them in somewhat early positions. I don't see a bet into these 3 working very often.

Of course it makes for good juice, but in that case check/calling the turn would be the right followup.

Just thinking aloud, here. Not telling you what's what, of course.
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So youre saying that past MP theres little that you won't raise with?
If I'm opening a pot from MP I'm raising. If an Ace flops bet it unless someone else bets it first. Lots of players who otherwise call a lot will fold to the PFR if an Ace flops and they don't have one.
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Old 12-27-2004, 10:15 PM #11 (permalink)  
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[quote="LeFou"][quote="Fnord"]
Quote:
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All of them in somewhat early positions. I don't see a bet into these 3 working very often.
It doesn't have to pick up the pot very often to make up the fraction of a big bet betting out a busted flush draw on the turn costs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBvge-c2_Xg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-Xz8aLuD7Y
 
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