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The_Bankroll

11-08-2005, 06:10 PM Post subject: tackling 5/10

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I've recently been playing the 3/6 at absolute and the 3/6 & 4/8 at doyle's room, and I'm getting close to a bankroll for playing 5/10 (about 275BB now) so I had a few questions about it, since it seems like 5/10 is the first limit that's considered ''mid-high" stakes and where I always here it gets a lot tougher.

1. what's a good BR for 5/10. Do you think I need more than the standard 300BB?

2. How different is the play at 5/10 usually. Is it really as TAGGy as I hear.

3. which are some of the best sites to play 5/10 on? I tried a little 5/10 6-max on doyle's, and they seemed pretty soft. not much game selection though. how is it on stars, party, absolute, etc.?

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11-08-2005, 06:17 PM

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1. what's a good BR for 5/10. Do you think I need more than the standard 300BB?

Yes.

2. How different is the play at 5/10 usually. Is it really as TAGGy as I hear.

Yes, depending where you play.

3. which are some of the best sites to play 5/10 on? I tried a little 5/10 6-max on doyle's, and they seemed pretty soft. not much game selection though. how is it on stars, party, absolute, etc.?

5/10 6max needs WAY more than 300bets.
Pacific is of course the best, but you can only one table.

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The_Bankroll

11-08-2005, 08:48 PM

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ok, what would be a good BR then, something in the 400-500 range?

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11-08-2005, 08:55 PM

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How are you doing at 3/6.
5/10 doesn't require "way more" than 300 big bets if your standard deviation and winrate stay similar.
Your standard deviation probably won't go up much until 10/20.
Your winrate will probably suffer though.

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11-08-2005, 09:00 PM

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ok, what would be a good BR then, something in the 400-500 range?

I think it depends on your style of play and how conservative you are or aggressive, however the larger the stakes I think many player will do a 500bb rule before moving up a level this way they can remain at this level and endure swings like 150bb... at 2/4 it's bit easier to swallow loosing half your roll, that's $600 where lets say you did the same at 10/20 or 30/60... well 10/20 150bb = $3k that would be hard to swallow IMO... and 30/60 we are talking 9k... so I mean if you look at it as units and only 150bb as 1/2 your bank roll it's not bad but, many people including myself well see that they lost half there roll and it was X amount...

I have made mistakes of playing outside of my roll I’ll be the first to admit it, however it's not going to happen again because i know how damaging it can be both emotionally and to your BR...

So as I said it depends 500bb is sort of standard if you want to stay at these levels and not have to drop down relatively quickly due to one night of piss poor showing… However if you don’t mind dropping down if things go bad the 300bb rule is fine…

Honestly whatever you fell conferrable with 300, 400, 500 or more, it’s really up to your stress comfort zone… If you can’t play the game to best of your ability with 300bb then wait for 400 or whatever gets you inside the comfort zone.

I know I’m not one to be saying things given that I have made many mistakes lately but I have come to realize this from my conversations with various players at FTR… so if you want you can ask for other opinions, but I think what I am saying is accurate.

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11-08-2005, 09:37 PM

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Just be ready to drop $1k really fast. Particularly if you play 6 max.

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11-08-2005, 11:48 PM

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Just be ready to drop $1k really fast. Particularly if you play 6 max.

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11-09-2005, 02:06 AM

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You need to be a much better positional, pre & post-flop player to succeed in 6-max 5-10 relative to full ring (even at some higher stakes) games. e.g. $10-20 full is an 'easier' game in that sense.

I emphasize post flop play because you have to know when to make plays like check-call someone down with middle and even bottom pair at times, or frequently make semi-bluff turn raises on someone when you think they have top pair bad kicker 'cuz they are capable of playing that hand and laying it down. You also have to be able to make per player adjustments better. Handling aggros and maniacs and rocks alike all play a part in 6-max success.

A word of advise, don't even think about adding multi-tabling in 6 max until you fully adjust and can prove to yourself that you can beat the game. And even then, add tables slowly, but I wouldn't recommend more than 2 or 3 personally. If you play tigther you can play one or two more, but if you are a positionally-aware, opponent-aware chameleon lag/agg type, then I'd never play more than 3 at once and even that can be too much. Reads and playing the player are just too big a part of the game IMHO . Multi 6max before you are ready, and you'll drop way more than then that $1000 Fnord and KMD are warning you about.

The reason you need more that 300BB is partially attributable to you having to make adjustments to your game (some people adjust quickly, some never do) and of course mostly related to the natural increased variance of that game structure.

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11-09-2005, 05:59 AM

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If you've not played a lot of 6max, visit the 3/6max games at party or the 2/4 6max games on stars. Both are soft and will be kinder during the learning curve 6max offers.

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11-09-2005, 06:36 AM

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Quote:

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Just be ready to drop $1k really fast. Particularly if you play 6 max.

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11-09-2005, 02:45 PM

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If your gonna make the switch to 6max then I wont recommend starting out at 5/10$ 6max.

Crypto has very soft £ games where the 1/2£ is almost 2/4$ but the play is just awful. Haven't played it much but the 2/4£ shouldn't be hard either.

I played the stars 2/4$ 6max and that games seems soft aswell.

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11-09-2005, 03:22 PM

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Just be ready to drop $1k really fast. Particularly if you play 6 max.

The first $1k loss is the worst, after you take that though it gets easier from there. Its good to just go ahead and get it out of the way, come back from it, then be profitable again.

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