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zenbitz
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10-31-2004, 07:08 PM
Post subject: Table Selection and Going up limits
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4-of-a-Kind
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So, now that I am offically a novice (1000+ hands @Party), I have a couple of key non "play" based questions:
When do you drop a table because it's too tight? How many orbits to get a good read? If 1/2 the players are good and the rest are free money, do you stay. or find a really fishy table?
I have been playing soley .5/1, and I like to do other stuff at the same time (i.e., this morning I have been organizing my iTunes). I can see the advantage to playing 3-4 tables, but that sounds like it would cut into my screwing around time.
How much harder is 1/2 than .5/1? My plan is to build my bankroll up to $200+ before I try it, but if I actually have to work at it, I will probably just stick to the lower limit.
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Nehmer
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When do you drop a table because it's too tight? How many orbits to get a good read? If 1/2 the players are good and the rest are free money, do you stay. or find a really fishy table?
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I never drop a table because it is too "tight". I will only drop a table if there are two or three people that really just seem to have my number(usually people that are very aggressive). If half the people at a table are basically free money, you better not leave that table.
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How much harder is 1/2 than .5/1? My plan is to build my bankroll up to $200+ before I try it, but if I actually have to work at it, I will probably just stick to the lower limit.
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1/2 is not much(if any) harder than .5/1 at all. The good rule of thumb before moving up limits though is to have 200 times the big bet. This would mean having a bankroll of at least $400 before moving up to 1/2.
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elipsesjeff
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I never drop a table because it is too "tight".
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Good point. However, if you find when you raise with quality hands (like AA, KK) and you steal the blinds, it might not be worth it.
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How much harder is 1/2 than .5/1?
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I was playing on Pacific last night and play was capped preflop 3 times by 8 people!
Its not always like this, and most of them folded post flop. But they do give you odds to chase that gut shot! 
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zenbitz
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I'm not saying that you can't win money at a tighter table, but there must be 100s of low-limit tables out there... why not just finish the orbit and try another one.
As for Bankroll... I can see needing 200XBB to stop a bad streak.. but I would probaly go in with 100BBs to 1/2... if I hit a losing streak drop down limits again. If I still lose, I can always get $50-100 out of the the ol' saving account (as long as the wife lets me! )
I used to play a PBM game (like everquest, but snail mail and even stupider) for $100s/month as a hobby, with no hope of payout... poker for me is just a game, not a job (maybe if I actually learn to play WELL in a couple years ... and still don't have a real job.)
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Fnord
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Originally Posted by Nehmer
I never drop a table because it is too "tight". I will only drop a table if there are two or three people that really just seem to have my number(usually people that are very aggressive). If half the people at a table are basically free money, you better not leave that table.
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Sure they're good and not just running good?
At 2/4 and above 1 or 2 really bad players can make a table worth playing. The other guys at the table are just not as likely to contribute to my profits.
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nemofromuscl
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Join Date: May 2004
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I just broke 200 (After depositing 40 and continually going up to 100 then taking out 40 or 50 for about 2 months) and now I play mostly just .5/1, but I can only play at pokerroom.com because I have a mac. I was just wondering what kind of tables were at the other sites. I'd say a good table for .25/.50 has a 60% players/flop and maybe 6$ for the average pot size or better. For .5/1, a good table has maybe 45% or 50% of the players seeing the flop and maybe 10 or better for the average pot size. Is this the kind of stuff you see at other sites?
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elipsesjeff
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nemo,
50% is normal for places like Poker Stars, higher for Party. I like around 60% for my liking.
Pacific also allows you to play via java application without downloading anything, check them out. They also have a nice bonus there, although takes a while to clear.
Pokerroom though is a good place to stay if you have to stay there. When I've played there I have found that the tables are loose, but not as loose as Party skins. I feel you will run into better players at Pokerroom so if you can beat it, stay there.
There will come a point when I run out of bonuses to whore, and at that time I will have to choose a 'poker home.' And Poker room is among the finalysts.
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