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snowboard_31
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02-14-2008, 11:34 PM
Post subject: to steal or not to steal with Axs in LP after folds
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Preflop: Hero is CO with  ,  .
4 folds, [color=#CC3333]Hero raises????????
Similar to a post I made a little while ago about small/med pocket pairs. Is this an auto raise assuming standard micro opponents in blinds.
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Jibalob
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This is a raise for me unless:
a) BB is a particularly tricky player
b) BU is likely to cold-call / 3bet
c) My table image is terrible
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DrivingDog
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It's a bit like a small pp hand. You either want lots of opponents where you can get paid off if you hit a big hand or you want one opponent where you can win UI if necessary.
You need to get some reads on your opponents. Get their cold caling, folding to steal stats. Pokertracker is what $50 or summin'? That's like 10 bucks Canadian these days...
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dsaxton
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This almost isn't even a steal. You figure to have the best hand, and A-x suited is also reasonably playable postflop in this situation.
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KoRnholio
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From the CO seat this is a pretty standard raise. From Middle position it's more marginal, since the chance of someone with position on us 3betting is higher and very disastrous.
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Ragnar4
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Originally Posted by dsaxton
This almost isn't even a steal. You figure to have the best hand, and A-x suited is also reasonably playable postflop in this situation.
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What about the phenomenon that many pro's describe as the Bunching Factor?
It's a steal because if the flop doesnt' fit your hand, you pretty much can't continue.
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The older I get, the more I start wondering; Just what in the hell is going on here? 
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dsaxton
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by Ragnar4
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Originally Posted by dsaxton
This almost isn't even a steal. You figure to have the best hand, and A-x suited is also reasonably playable postflop in this situation.
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What about the phenomenon that many pro's describe as the Bunching Factor?
It's a steal because if the flop doesnt' fit your hand, you pretty much can't continue. |
I don't think that's what's being referred to here. Even if you completely whiff, you're still going to win the pot almost every time the other guy doesn't flop anything either.
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Ragnar4
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wow.. what stakes do you play at? even at 3/6 I can't get the other guy to fold when he whiffs.
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The older I get, the more I start wondering; Just what in the hell is going on here?
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dsaxton
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Originally Posted by Ragnar4
wow.. what stakes do you play at? even at 3/6 I can't get the other guy to fold when he whiffs.
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Then keep betting your ace high for value.
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Hermann the Lombard
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02-17-2008, 11:58 PM
Post subject: Re: to steal or not to steal with Axs in LP after folds
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#10 (permalink)
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by snowboard_31
Is this an auto raise assuming standard micro opponents in blinds.
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* semi-grunch *
Standard micro opponents in the blinds aren't going to fold to a steal attempt. If you have reads that the blinds are tight, then this is a steal attempt. If they're passive, then you're fairly safe against getting 3-bet so you hope you're betting for value. If they're LAG then you don't want to be playing this OOP...and switch seats if you can.
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