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Harry
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06-09-2006, 01:04 AM
Post subject: Stats review at 5,000 please =)
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Full House
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Small sample size, I know, but any obvious leaks should be evident I would think.
Any tips would be appreciated =)
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midas06
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You're not defending either blind enough, especially your bb.
You're probably too passive preflop, especially in late position.
Your won%at showdown is pretty low, so you're probably running pretty badly over a small sample size too.
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Harry
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I'll post a batch of hands in another thread.
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Xanadu
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One thing, it looks like you are running really bad from UTG. I'm sure you don't purposely play more hands UTG than UTG +1, so it looks like you have been getting better than usual hands UTG, and getting creamed with them (W$SD is almost 20% points lower than other positions).
Are you raising the same range preflop from all positions? Your stats look like it ... if so, this is a huge leak. You should be raising way more than 15% from button.
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Harry
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Can you give me some example of hands you would fold, say UTG +1, but would raise on the button when its all limpers ahead of you?
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by midas06
You're not defending either blind enough, especially your bb.
You're probably too passive preflop, especially in late position.
Your won%at showdown is pretty low, so you're probably running pretty badly over a small sample size too.
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Well put. Besides this, either buy or re-read books on how to improve your post flop play. Looking at your stats, I think you likely losing most money by getting good looking preflop hands, and then being too aggressive with them or taking them too far when your opponents are screaming at you that you are beat (AF of 3, W$SD low looks like you are overplaying hands). Although these are probably your biggest leaks, post flop play takes time to learn. Keep posting hands and ask questions on post flop play. Also, read archived posts on post play hands to get a flavor for how other posters play certain situations.
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These look like my full ring Vpip and PFR.
You're too tight.
You'll really struggle to be a winning 6max player with figures like this.
Steal more and defend more.
Learn to play with position better.
Your flop fold% is also high and you're probably throwing away winning hands too early.
Basically, don't be afraid to put yourself in uncomfortable positions. It seems that you are trying to avoid these situations and have become weak tight because of it.
And as some have pointed out, you are probably running a little bad which doesn't help.
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Xanadu
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Originally Posted by Harry
Can you give me some example of hands you would fold, say UTG +1, but would raise on the button when its all limpers ahead of you?
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Well, this is a case where there isn't a huge difference. I would consider these 2 situations to have pretty much the same raising range for me. You don't raise as many hands from the button with 3 limpers as you do with 1 or when open raising. But you do call with a lot of hands after 3 limpers that you would fold UTG +1 or fold on the Button with 1 limper.
To answer a little more useful question ... what hands do you fold UTG +1 that you would raise on the Button with 1 limper? Here there are quite a few candidates, and depending on the circumstances, some hands on this list might be A2s-A7s, A6-A9, KT, K9s, QJ, QT, 22-77.
There are a lot of hands in 6-max that are raise/fold hands depending on the action before you. You open raise them, but if anyone has limped, you just fold. This is very common in the CO and Button positions. Small pocket pairs, Aces with crappy kickers, the more marginal high card hands like K9-J8. The point is that these hands aren't worth playing if someone has already entered the pot because you have the information that at least 1 person already has something. You would normally open raise though, because your hand has at least a small significant advantage against the 2 or 3 random hands left to act, and along with advantages of position, fold equity preflop, and initiative, it becomes a winning play. I wonder if you consider open raising a hand like K7s or Q9o from the CO. I'm not saying you should always be doing this, but you should be considering it, because at some tables, that is the right play.
Because the blinds come around so fast, it is even more important in 6-max to push the small edges preflop. When you have a hand with a good equity edage preflop, you should be raising. It is also very important to charge the blinds to play. A lot of players will call that extra bet from the BB with nothing. Make them pay for it. There are hands you can just call, as they have +EV from implied odds, but are not good enough to be value raised preflop, but outside of those, most decisions are raise or fold preflop.
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Harry
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If it is folded to me in late position I am definitly agressive. Maybe I can loosen up even more, but I don't think this is what is really hurting me.
These tables usually have about 4 people going to the flop each hand, with or without a PF raise. I seem to be losing the most when I flop TPTK.
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Harry
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Update:
I bottomed out at -270 BB. Then Jeff told me the super simple million dollar secret of poker. 2600 hands later:
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euphoricism
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Stop spewing from the blinds?
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midas06
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I'm guessing table selection
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Hate
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Start running good?
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Xanadu
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Full House
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Wow that's quite a turnaround. I hope that super simple secret isn't too secret?
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