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06-03-2006, 08:10 PM
Post subject: Stats of a 6-max Fish
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I'm very new to 6-max LHE and I'm not really sure what I'm looking for in terms of checking my stats for potential leaks. I know my winrate is ok but I'm looking for what I can improve on.
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Originally Posted by Ripptyde
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euphoricism
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Not looking bad at all. Your vpip/pfr is "in general" a little low, but due to the fact that youre playing a lower stake with a bunch of retards, I think its about perfect.
Your small blind play needs a smidgeon of work.
Also, "in general" your att2steal number is low -- but again, youre playing people who will probably call just about any two from the BB.
Lookin good, keep it up.
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You could also probably stand to defend your bb a bit more, and you could also stand to go to showdown a bit more with slightly lesser holdings.
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06-04-2006, 07:51 AM
Post subject: Re: Stats of a 6-max Fish
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I'd recommend playing a little looser. Or at least try to see if you can push your limit of +EV hands a little. Don't go overboard, but think about where you can play a hand here or there that you normally wouldn't in your current game.
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Jesus why can't i play that tight? I play .5/1 as well and have a VPIP of around 22. and 40-ish from SB. crap
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Originally Posted by euphoricism
Not looking bad at all. Your vpip/pfr is "in general" a little low, but due to the fact that youre playing a lower stake with a bunch of retards, I think its about perfect.
Your small blind play needs a smidgeon of work.
Also, "in general" your att2steal number is low -- but again, youre playing people who will probably call just about any two from the BB.
Lookin good, keep it up.
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Like you said, these guys will call with all kinds of crap, but against tight players I open my range up for steals from the button and CO quite a bit. I'm still getting a feel for what starting hands I'm playing, and I'm trying to add some hands to my button and CO open raising ranges. The problem I'm having is I'm not sure if my postflop game heads up is worth a crap with marginal holdings, and I'm trying to work on that.
Thanks everyone for their replies, I'll probably play out the rest of this week and then hop up to $1/2.
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Originally Posted by Ripptyde
I only have 2 simple rules when I am coaching a new student.
Rule # 1: don't ask questions
Rule # 2: don't ask questions
I have no interest in discussing strategy with a protege'. Your job is to remain quiet and listen. I have a very systematic approach that I will share with the right candidate and I promise that I will turn you into a force of nature and show you elements of the game of poker that you never knew existed.
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Yeah, you will make more if you open up a little, but only if you are very good postflop with marginal hands. I think you are doing the right thing staying tighter until that time. Best place to start playing a few more hands is the button because your post flop position helps a lot. Marginal hands are much harder OOP.
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your beating the game at 2.29bb/100... i wouldn't change a damn thing
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your beating the game at 2.29bb/100... i wouldn't change a damn thing
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I wholeheartedly agree. His SB play is actually rather poor losing -.11, and he's still kicking ass. Might be running hot in other spots, but I certainly wouldn't change much.
2.39bb/100 over 20k is impressive. I think your rockasstightness is perfect for these low stakes.
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Originally Posted by pokerfanatic
your beating the game at 2.29bb/100... i wouldn't change a damn thing
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I wholeheartedly agree. His SB play is actually rather poor losing -.11, and he's still kicking ass. Might be running hot in other spots, but I certainly wouldn't change much.
2.39bb/100 over 20k is impressive. I think your rockasstightness is perfect for these low stakes. |
well at 0.5/1 the players are so bad that the relevence of changing play to fix the SB or move up VP$IP is a lot lower then it would be at say 2/4 or 3/6...
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I think you understimate the effects of small changes in the blinds. If he got his SB down to -.09, he'd have made another 80 bets.
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I think you understimate the effects of small changes in the blinds. If he got his SB down to -.09, he'd have made another 80 bets.
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Theoretically. Maybe its impossible to run so good from the SB in a .5/1 6 max game too. Either way, he should not be in the .5/1 6 max game with that winrate.
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euphoricism
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Originally Posted by euphoricism
I think you understimate the effects of small changes in the blinds. If he got his SB down to -.09, he'd have made another 80 bets.
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Theoretically. Maybe its impossible to run so good from the SB in a .5/1 6 max game too. Either way, he should not be in the .5/1 6 max game with that winrate. |
His absurdly high w$@sd makes me want to say, "play another 30k hands..." but I've never actually seen a significant sample size at .5/1 sh to really gauge if +60% is possible. I guess it could be. He's a good player, and he's playing horrible players.
I'm very tempted to say 'hot run, be careful'. But I won't do that. No way, not me.
I will absolutely agree that .5/1 is beneath him.
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If he has the roll 1/2 plays no different then 0.5/1... I know this because I have played it...
Played every damn stake from 0.5/1 to 5/10 at 6max... the 0.5/1 and 1/2 play identical, the 2/4 plays somewhat like 1/2 but blind play is a lot more important at 2/4, I think that would be the level to really work on it because first level I see stealers regularly... 3/6 plays like 2/4 but slightly more argo I think... 5/10 well we wont go there...
unless the game has changed since i came up though those stakes... i don't think that it's all THAT important to worry about a if his VP$IP should be 20 or whatever you suggest honestly the 0.5/1 is not a level i think most players have completely adjusted to that type game so a FR VP$IP might work well...
1/2 I think you would defiantly want to be 18-21 VP$IP so I think it might be something to work on as you become more conferrable in the game... as his post flop game improves his VP$IP can increase easily because he can play more marginal hands profitably...
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if he has the roll 1/2 plays no diffrent then 0.5/1... i know this because i have played it...
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Got money in limbo, plan to start 1/2 beginning of next week.
I've got so much to work on.
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Originally Posted by Ripptyde
I only have 2 simple rules when I am coaching a new student.
Rule # 1: don't ask questions
Rule # 2: don't ask questions
I have no interest in discussing strategy with a protege'. Your job is to remain quiet and listen. I have a very systematic approach that I will share with the right candidate and I promise that I will turn you into a force of nature and show you elements of the game of poker that you never knew existed.
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